1 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:26,140 [Music] 2 00:00:28,570 --> 00:00:26,570 you 3 00:00:29,170 --> 00:00:28,580 [Applause] 4 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:29,180 you 5 00:00:37,510 --> 00:00:36,650 [Music] 6 00:00:41,180 --> 00:00:37,520 [Applause] 7 00:00:45,230 --> 00:00:41,190 [Music] 8 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:48,810 and 9 00:00:48,820 --> 00:01:04,020 [Music] 10 00:01:08,830 --> 00:01:06,490 welcome to the center of light radio 11 00:01:11,260 --> 00:01:08,840 with spiritual teacher intuitive 12 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:11,270 musician composer and best-selling 13 00:01:16,060 --> 00:01:13,850 author of the Divine Principle anchoring 14 00:01:18,639 --> 00:01:16,070 heaven on earth your host Keith 15 00:01:19,990 --> 00:01:18,649 Anthony Blanchard coast-to-coast potahto 16 00:01:22,090 --> 00:01:20,000 all around the world on the internet 17 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:22,100 thanks to the Marvel of Technology I'm 18 00:01:25,090 --> 00:01:23,690 coming at you live from a literal guest 19 00:01:26,260 --> 00:01:25,100 house in Memphis Tennessee this is Keith 20 00:01:28,270 --> 00:01:26,270 Anthony Blanchard you're listening to 21 00:01:31,810 --> 00:01:28,280 the center of light radio senator Devine 22 00:01:34,900 --> 00:01:31,820 unfoldment and reinforcements radio for 23 00:01:36,990 --> 00:01:34,910 the soul and the transformation station 24 00:01:39,190 --> 00:01:37,000 a couple of mountains from the quick 25 00:01:40,779 --> 00:01:39,200 metaphysics returns to Memphis August 26 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:40,789 5th and 6th at the Agricenter 27 00:01:44,230 --> 00:01:42,610 International with the Memphis 28 00:01:45,910 --> 00:01:44,240 metaphysical fair the Memphis 29 00:01:48,070 --> 00:01:45,920 metaphysical fair will play host to 30 00:01:49,870 --> 00:01:48,080 psychic mediums tarot card readers 31 00:01:53,020 --> 00:01:49,880 crystal and stone heroes and vendors 32 00:01:56,859 --> 00:01:53,030 it's got a Native American motif motif 33 00:01:59,529 --> 00:01:56,869 motif paranormal investigating in 20 34 00:02:00,760 --> 00:01:59,539 workshops over the two days august 5th 35 00:02:03,130 --> 00:02:00,770 and 6th Agricenter 36 00:02:06,130 --> 00:02:03,140 international Memphis from 10 a.m. to 6 37 00:02:07,510 --> 00:02:06,140 p.m. $10 for one day adult past 16 for 38 00:02:09,729 --> 00:02:07,520 both get a little deal right there 39 00:02:12,580 --> 00:02:09,739 military discounts available children 40 00:02:14,289 --> 00:02:12,590 under 12 or free workshops range from 41 00:02:15,940 --> 00:02:14,299 zero to ten dollars vending booths are 42 00:02:19,150 --> 00:02:15,950 still available go to Memphis 43 00:02:22,740 --> 00:02:19,160 metaphysical calm for more information I 44 00:02:26,170 --> 00:02:22,750 will be giving a two-hour presentation 45 00:02:27,940 --> 00:02:26,180 there on radical transformation I'm 46 00:02:30,640 --> 00:02:27,950 going to go inside of you so to speak 47 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:30,650 collectively and find ways to open you 48 00:02:33,640 --> 00:02:32,090 up so you can see the bigger picture 49 00:02:35,890 --> 00:02:33,650 we're going to pop open your awareness 50 00:02:38,920 --> 00:02:35,900 trust me I can do this I am confident in 51 00:02:40,449 --> 00:02:38,930 what I can do about that and the rest of 52 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:40,459 the presentation is going to be about 53 00:02:44,830 --> 00:02:42,410 empowering you with the information so 54 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:44,840 you can begin to live dwell and be in 55 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:47,450 that space all the time and you will see 56 00:02:51,670 --> 00:02:49,850 yourself and your awareness expand it's 57 00:02:55,210 --> 00:02:51,680 not that hard it's not rocket science 58 00:02:57,550 --> 00:02:55,220 it's like lifting your you know you lift 59 00:02:59,170 --> 00:02:57,560 weights to create body mass you start 60 00:03:00,640 --> 00:02:59,180 expanding your awareness mass and then 61 00:03:02,380 --> 00:03:00,650 it begins to grow it begins to expand 62 00:03:03,729 --> 00:03:02,390 and next thing you know you become very 63 00:03:05,770 --> 00:03:03,739 endowed with the rareness you can see 64 00:03:08,020 --> 00:03:05,780 with your ears trust me you know seeing 65 00:03:09,970 --> 00:03:08,030 is not necessarily with the eyes a blind 66 00:03:12,820 --> 00:03:09,980 man once said that it doesn't require 67 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:12,830 bit a sight to climb Mount errors Evers 68 00:03:16,990 --> 00:03:14,810 it requires vision 69 00:03:18,820 --> 00:03:17,000 pretty powerful but yet simple profound 70 00:03:21,130 --> 00:03:18,830 idea 71 00:03:24,190 --> 00:03:21,140 Memphis metaphysical fair all the skip 72 00:03:26,170 --> 00:03:24,200 and fix this divine man right here if 73 00:03:29,190 --> 00:03:26,180 you watch in the video swansea this 74 00:03:31,420 --> 00:03:29,200 really is coming back to Memphis in 75 00:03:34,540 --> 00:03:31,430 September and I have the opportunity 76 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:34,550 blessed opportunity to interview him for 77 00:03:40,839 --> 00:03:38,930 the third time his tour title the theme 78 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:40,849 for this year is healing the earth by 79 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:43,010 purifying the waters so I'm going to ask 80 00:03:47,199 --> 00:03:44,930 some pretty big powerful questions from 81 00:03:49,180 --> 00:03:47,209 a God realized man hopefully we can 82 00:03:51,009 --> 00:03:49,190 bring some information back to singers 83 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:51,019 like radio but also the interview with 84 00:03:54,580 --> 00:03:53,090 Swansea but through the questions I'm 85 00:03:57,400 --> 00:03:54,590 going to put him if the theme is 86 00:03:59,559 --> 00:03:57,410 purifying the earth a healing earth but 87 00:04:01,479 --> 00:03:59,569 purifying the waters then it makes sense 88 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:01,489 to me I should be asking questions about 89 00:04:07,170 --> 00:04:04,130 Fukushima it makes sense to me I should 90 00:04:11,740 --> 00:04:07,180 be asking questions about the supposed 91 00:04:13,390 --> 00:04:11,750 oil spout in the Gulf of Mexico but the 92 00:04:15,309 --> 00:04:13,400 BP oil spill that have is it really 93 00:04:17,979 --> 00:04:15,319 capped what can we do about these kinds 94 00:04:19,840 --> 00:04:17,989 of things so these are the questions I'm 95 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:19,850 going to be put into Swansea this really 96 00:04:22,690 --> 00:04:21,410 he'll be here in September and I'm 97 00:04:26,190 --> 00:04:22,700 pretty sure we're going to be able to 98 00:04:29,740 --> 00:04:26,200 video interview which is going to be 99 00:04:31,420 --> 00:04:29,750 absolutely cool and when you around a 100 00:04:33,490 --> 00:04:31,430 divine man like this it's not something 101 00:04:36,070 --> 00:04:33,500 to be said me telling you about it 102 00:04:38,650 --> 00:04:36,080 really soils and Sully's the experience 103 00:04:40,840 --> 00:04:38,660 he around someone like that who is that 104 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:40,850 illumines my god 105 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:45,650 that's exactly what it's a normal quick 106 00:04:48,580 --> 00:04:47,330 message out in it pass we suggest here 107 00:04:50,050 --> 00:04:48,590 on center of light radio go too soon of 108 00:04:52,300 --> 00:04:50,060 light radio calm on the opening page 109 00:04:54,100 --> 00:04:52,310 you'll see a flying saucer when that 110 00:04:55,810 --> 00:04:54,110 flying saucer settles down you'll see a 111 00:04:58,000 --> 00:04:55,820 donate button we're trying to raise 112 00:05:00,969 --> 00:04:58,010 money well most are go to get Kenneth 113 00:05:02,350 --> 00:05:00,979 path to Arizona when he was a kid he was 114 00:05:04,390 --> 00:05:02,360 on a camping trip and he went hiking 115 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:04,400 with some other kids and a few adults 116 00:05:08,379 --> 00:05:05,930 and they were picked up by aliens have 117 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:08,389 brought back 10,000 years I know this 118 00:05:12,300 --> 00:05:10,090 sounds far-fetched I know it does I 119 00:05:16,300 --> 00:05:12,310 believe the guy I I do 120 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:16,310 brought back 10,000 years and if anybody 121 00:05:19,930 --> 00:05:17,930 out there is familiar with prophecy rock 122 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:19,940 those pictures those petroglyphs you see 123 00:05:23,980 --> 00:05:22,490 on that rock that's Kenneth he says 124 00:05:26,500 --> 00:05:23,990 that's me coming out of the ship with 125 00:05:28,570 --> 00:05:26,510 the other kids and the adults while he 126 00:05:29,950 --> 00:05:28,580 was away for quite a few years and when 127 00:05:31,659 --> 00:05:29,960 is brought back is brought back to his 128 00:05:34,059 --> 00:05:31,669 present moment as if they never left 129 00:05:36,490 --> 00:05:34,069 while he was away one of the aliens 130 00:05:38,020 --> 00:05:36,500 pissed him off so he hid a piece of 131 00:05:40,119 --> 00:05:38,030 their technology somewhere in Arizona 132 00:05:42,459 --> 00:05:40,129 and he wants to take a bus ride because 133 00:05:43,540 --> 00:05:42,469 can it was a very very simple guy and I 134 00:05:45,939 --> 00:05:43,550 think our goal was like five hundred 135 00:05:49,300 --> 00:05:45,949 dollars to get him to and fro Arizona so 136 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:49,310 he can go find where he hid this thing 137 00:05:53,649 --> 00:05:50,810 and bring it to the Hopi and to the 138 00:05:55,330 --> 00:05:53,659 Pueblo because that is the responsible 139 00:05:57,249 --> 00:05:55,340 people and they would know what to do 140 00:05:59,890 --> 00:05:57,259 with it or how to protect and guard it 141 00:06:01,930 --> 00:05:59,900 keep it safe and secret and so with the 142 00:06:03,959 --> 00:06:01,940 gig is when Kenneth comes back he's 143 00:06:06,249 --> 00:06:03,969 gonna tell us all about his journey 144 00:06:09,399 --> 00:06:06,259 doing that thing and that's come here 145 00:06:12,689 --> 00:06:09,409 for the show ah let's just get right 146 00:06:14,469 --> 00:06:12,699 down the center of light radio business 147 00:06:16,510 --> 00:06:14,479 make sure you down eight eight eight 148 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:16,520 nine one nine two three five five it's 149 00:06:20,170 --> 00:06:18,650 triple eight nine one nine two three 150 00:06:24,820 --> 00:06:20,180 five five if you want to talk to myself 151 00:06:27,369 --> 00:06:24,830 or my dear bro phenomenal human being 152 00:06:30,309 --> 00:06:27,379 I've been ringing my hands again waiting 153 00:06:32,649 --> 00:06:30,319 to talk to my friend mr. John C Robison 154 00:06:34,450 --> 00:06:32,659 he is a clinical psychologist with the 155 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:34,460 second doctrine in ministry and ordained 156 00:06:40,540 --> 00:06:37,250 in a faith minister the author of the 157 00:06:43,149 --> 00:06:40,550 siddhis nine books and numerous articles 158 00:06:46,659 --> 00:06:43,159 on the psychology spirituality and 159 00:06:50,140 --> 00:06:46,669 missus ism of the new aging and frequent 160 00:06:52,420 --> 00:06:50,150 speaker at conscious aging conferences 161 00:06:55,869 --> 00:06:52,430 his major work includes the death of a 162 00:06:58,719 --> 00:06:55,879 de hero birth of the soul but where is 163 00:07:01,119 --> 00:06:58,729 God so forth and so on he has tons and 164 00:07:04,300 --> 00:07:01,129 tons of bodies work out there and it's 165 00:07:05,950 --> 00:07:04,310 amazing and I just it's just a delight 166 00:07:07,959 --> 00:07:05,960 for me to talk to John John welcome to 167 00:07:10,329 --> 00:07:07,969 sin of light radio hey Keith it's 168 00:07:13,570 --> 00:07:10,339 wonderful here love being with you is 169 00:07:19,450 --> 00:07:13,580 that so much fun yeah we do man you know 170 00:07:22,119 --> 00:07:19,460 you remind me of who I want to be I you 171 00:07:25,290 --> 00:07:22,129 know we talked about in the past some of 172 00:07:28,329 --> 00:07:25,300 the interviews we had we talked about 173 00:07:31,089 --> 00:07:28,339 the idea of death and how we get closer 174 00:07:33,300 --> 00:07:31,099 and to it every second that ticks by and 175 00:07:37,510 --> 00:07:33,310 I set this to someone the other day that 176 00:07:39,370 --> 00:07:37,520 you have made me almost want to invite 177 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:39,380 my death 178 00:07:43,930 --> 00:07:41,690 I mean you make me excited about it from 179 00:07:47,830 --> 00:07:43,940 our past interviews that it's all the 180 00:07:49,860 --> 00:07:47,840 horror and all the bad things out of it 181 00:07:52,180 --> 00:07:49,870 is that's like I'm looking forward to it 182 00:07:55,180 --> 00:07:52,190 well death is not what you think it is 183 00:07:57,430 --> 00:07:55,190 it is think about that make them into 184 00:07:59,080 --> 00:07:57,440 problems when you stop thinking and open 185 00:08:01,930 --> 00:07:59,090 your awareness to something that is 186 00:08:04,420 --> 00:08:01,940 having it's far more radiant and divine 187 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:04,430 and miraculous than you ever thought so 188 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:06,890 it's way better to do that than to dwell 189 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:09,650 and fears and anxieties so welcome to 190 00:08:16,690 --> 00:08:13,610 the journey so Jenna I couldn't wait to 191 00:08:18,820 --> 00:08:16,700 get you back on this show and you have a 192 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:18,830 new book that just hit the market and 193 00:08:25,540 --> 00:08:22,370 it's called the divine human yes what 194 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:25,550 what is of the divine human so the 195 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:28,970 divine human is somebody who experiences 196 00:08:33,820 --> 00:08:31,850 himself or herself as literally divine 197 00:08:36,159 --> 00:08:33,830 it's not a metaphor it's not a fantasy 198 00:08:37,930 --> 00:08:36,169 it's not a nice idea it's a literal 199 00:08:40,839 --> 00:08:37,940 experience it's a state of consciousness 200 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:40,849 that changes the way we experience 201 00:08:46,990 --> 00:08:45,410 ourselves and the world so it's a 202 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:47,000 consciousness when you get into it and 203 00:08:50,830 --> 00:08:48,530 it's not that hard to get into it's a 204 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:50,840 consciousness that's free of identity 205 00:08:54,460 --> 00:08:52,490 time and story and all the problem 206 00:08:56,770 --> 00:08:54,470 ridden idea is a labyrinth that's in the 207 00:08:59,200 --> 00:08:56,780 left brain that's in our in our mind and 208 00:09:02,770 --> 00:08:59,210 in this consciousness you begin to 209 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:02,780 experience your awareness as God's 210 00:09:07,150 --> 00:09:05,090 awareness and your being is God's being 211 00:09:08,980 --> 00:09:07,160 and as you begin to dissolve who you 212 00:09:11,170 --> 00:09:08,990 think you are and move into this pure 213 00:09:14,680 --> 00:09:11,180 state of awareness you are that which is 214 00:09:16,630 --> 00:09:14,690 that's God so this book is all about how 215 00:09:18,670 --> 00:09:16,640 to have that experience and how that 216 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:18,680 transforms not only our lives but our 217 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:24,410 perception of the world itself so would 218 00:09:29,530 --> 00:09:27,130 you support the idea of incorporating 219 00:09:33,430 --> 00:09:29,540 meditation as a daily practice for those 220 00:09:35,170 --> 00:09:33,440 who may be new to these this way of 221 00:09:38,380 --> 00:09:35,180 thought this wave being this way of 222 00:09:41,500 --> 00:09:38,390 living one's life oh sure I think the 223 00:09:43,900 --> 00:09:41,510 one things we have to do as we grow 224 00:09:46,060 --> 00:09:43,910 spiritually is to begin to quiet the 225 00:09:47,530 --> 00:09:46,070 mind and meditation and there's so many 226 00:09:49,450 --> 00:09:47,540 different types of meditation but 227 00:09:52,060 --> 00:09:49,460 meditation is very useful in just 228 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:52,070 sitting still and watching thoughts and 229 00:09:54,660 --> 00:09:52,810 watching how you 230 00:09:56,190 --> 00:09:54,670 thoughts begin to become quieter and 231 00:09:58,380 --> 00:09:56,200 settle and then moving to the space 232 00:09:59,850 --> 00:09:58,390 between thoughts and and beginning to 233 00:10:00,660 --> 00:09:59,860 realize that your thoughts are not who 234 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:00,670 you are 235 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:03,490 you hook you you write off on them like 236 00:10:07,290 --> 00:10:05,290 a horse galloping away but it's not who 237 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:07,300 you are when you begin to learn how to 238 00:10:11,850 --> 00:10:09,850 not identify with your thoughts you open 239 00:10:14,550 --> 00:10:11,860 to a spacious consciousness that's full 240 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:14,560 of love and that's that's the real it's 241 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:16,450 not just about relaxation it's not just 242 00:10:20,210 --> 00:10:18,610 about you know have being it being more 243 00:10:22,579 --> 00:10:20,220 conscious or mindful it's about 244 00:10:24,780 --> 00:10:22,589 experiencing the divine consciousness 245 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:24,790 consciousness that pervades the entire 246 00:10:31,680 --> 00:10:27,010 universe and discovering that is your 247 00:10:33,690 --> 00:10:31,690 consciousness you know John one way one 248 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:33,700 thing that meditation does it does help 249 00:10:39,180 --> 00:10:35,770 relax a person helps them to feel at 250 00:10:41,430 --> 00:10:39,190 ease or at peace but there are more 251 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:41,440 people many people who think that it's 252 00:10:45,420 --> 00:10:43,930 strictly for relaxing trust me when I 253 00:10:48,060 --> 00:10:45,430 tell you out there listening 254 00:10:50,070 --> 00:10:48,070 these are Buddhist monks they're not 255 00:10:51,690 --> 00:10:50,080 trying to relax they're quite relaxed 256 00:10:55,110 --> 00:10:51,700 already they're dropping in to the 257 00:10:56,340 --> 00:10:55,120 cosmic dialogue so much so that they are 258 00:10:58,770 --> 00:10:56,350 in the stream 259 00:11:01,410 --> 00:10:58,780 they are the stream yeah here you enter 260 00:11:03,750 --> 00:11:01,420 the flow see because you construct this 261 00:11:05,130 --> 00:11:03,760 idea of yourself and and you park it in 262 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:05,140 the left hemisphere of the brain and 263 00:11:08,970 --> 00:11:06,850 pretty soon it runs and hijacks the 264 00:11:09,930 --> 00:11:08,980 whole show and and you actually believe 265 00:11:12,180 --> 00:11:09,940 that's who you are 266 00:11:14,579 --> 00:11:12,190 and as you quiet and still your thoughts 267 00:11:16,560 --> 00:11:14,589 you drop into a fathomless interior and 268 00:11:19,890 --> 00:11:16,570 into a fathomless state of awareness 269 00:11:21,930 --> 00:11:19,900 that that opens you to the consciousness 270 00:11:23,790 --> 00:11:21,940 that is everywhere and then that is that 271 00:11:25,890 --> 00:11:23,800 is beginning of a mystical life because 272 00:11:28,079 --> 00:11:25,900 from that consciousness the world itself 273 00:11:30,570 --> 00:11:28,089 begins to be radiant and luminous and 274 00:11:32,310 --> 00:11:30,580 infinitely precious say I'm sitting here 275 00:11:35,130 --> 00:11:32,320 watching you because for those out there 276 00:11:37,560 --> 00:11:35,140 who can we're going to have this in 277 00:11:39,690 --> 00:11:37,570 video format in the next week but I'm 278 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:39,700 watching John as he expresses himself 279 00:11:45,060 --> 00:11:42,010 and I want Jesus for gain quotes he's 280 00:11:48,150 --> 00:11:45,070 channeling he's actually in that place 281 00:11:49,380 --> 00:11:48,160 as he is given this interview John would 282 00:11:54,690 --> 00:11:49,390 there be a true statement that you 283 00:11:56,850 --> 00:11:54,700 somehow lose identity of John and become 284 00:11:59,280 --> 00:11:56,860 something else not once they become you 285 00:12:01,110 --> 00:11:59,290 know yeah absolutely yeah you're 286 00:12:03,900 --> 00:12:01,120 absolutely right I it's the kind of 287 00:12:06,319 --> 00:12:03,910 thing that is such a state of liberation 288 00:12:08,419 --> 00:12:06,329 to not be saddled to who you think you 289 00:12:10,809 --> 00:12:08,429 our and when that and when that start 290 00:12:13,850 --> 00:12:10,819 dissolved and enter the great unknown 291 00:12:16,069 --> 00:12:13,860 there's a there's a sense of wonder and 292 00:12:18,199 --> 00:12:16,079 beauty and freedom and joy and love that 293 00:12:20,150 --> 00:12:18,209 is infinite and you realize I've been 294 00:12:23,239 --> 00:12:20,160 waiting to see most of my life trying to 295 00:12:25,519 --> 00:12:23,249 be somebody I don't like if I don't want 296 00:12:27,859 --> 00:12:25,529 to be anybody I want to transcend by 297 00:12:30,859 --> 00:12:27,869 anybody miss and become one with the 298 00:12:33,289 --> 00:12:30,869 whole if we did that the world would be 299 00:12:35,210 --> 00:12:33,299 experienced as heaven on earth and we 300 00:12:38,119 --> 00:12:35,220 would be experienced as divine humans 301 00:12:40,069 --> 00:12:38,129 and that's the whole point so what is 302 00:12:42,979 --> 00:12:40,079 the state of consciousness that creates 303 00:12:43,609 --> 00:12:42,989 divine human that would be God conscious 304 00:12:46,549 --> 00:12:43,619 yes 305 00:12:48,799 --> 00:12:46,559 yeah like the Mystics tell us from time 306 00:12:50,989 --> 00:12:48,809 immemorial that there is really only one 307 00:12:53,539 --> 00:12:50,999 consciousness everywhere in the universe 308 00:12:56,269 --> 00:12:53,549 now what's happened to us human beings 309 00:12:58,910 --> 00:12:56,279 is that as we developed our capacity to 310 00:13:01,729 --> 00:12:58,920 think and conceptualize and impose a 311 00:13:04,189 --> 00:13:01,739 belief systems on the world they they 312 00:13:05,660 --> 00:13:04,199 were very very useful for survival but 313 00:13:07,850 --> 00:13:05,670 pretty soon we began a mistake our 314 00:13:09,739 --> 00:13:07,860 beliefs for the world itself and what 315 00:13:11,989 --> 00:13:09,749 happens is that that's a state of 316 00:13:13,519 --> 00:13:11,999 consciousness we need to transcend the 317 00:13:15,919 --> 00:13:13,529 dissolve because when it goes what's 318 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:15,929 left is the consciousness in which it 319 00:13:20,150 --> 00:13:17,970 was all arising and in that 320 00:13:22,549 --> 00:13:20,160 consciousness you'll discover an 321 00:13:24,949 --> 00:13:22,559 entirely different you have no identity 322 00:13:27,079 --> 00:13:24,959 you are the consciousness that lives 323 00:13:29,090 --> 00:13:27,089 everything you can come up to a tree and 324 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:29,100 you can and you can touch the tree and 325 00:13:33,139 --> 00:13:30,689 you realize it it's aware of you 326 00:13:35,179 --> 00:13:33,149 touching it and it's touching you and 327 00:13:37,999 --> 00:13:35,189 there's this great sense of communion 328 00:13:40,249 --> 00:13:38,009 for all of creation so this is the whole 329 00:13:42,229 --> 00:13:40,259 point it's a state of continuity divine 330 00:13:45,379 --> 00:13:42,239 human consciousness is pure awareness 331 00:13:49,759 --> 00:13:45,389 free of all thinking and at that space 332 00:13:52,009 --> 00:13:49,769 you're it you know the way you use the 333 00:13:55,039 --> 00:13:52,019 tree analogy that the tree is aware of 334 00:13:57,229 --> 00:13:55,049 you I guess back in the late 60s when we 335 00:14:02,809 --> 00:13:57,239 had the tree huggers they were they were 336 00:14:04,429 --> 00:14:02,819 the frontrunners right lovely woman who 337 00:14:06,379 --> 00:14:04,439 stand upon that tree for all those 338 00:14:08,780 --> 00:14:06,389 months you know she became one with the 339 00:14:10,819 --> 00:14:08,790 tree you know she developed a different 340 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:10,829 state of consciousness as she was moving 341 00:14:13,030 --> 00:14:12,689 in the wind and living up there for so 342 00:14:16,039 --> 00:14:13,040 long 343 00:14:19,010 --> 00:14:16,049 it being in the wilderness transforms 344 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:19,020 you it's a there's a consciousness there 345 00:14:23,810 --> 00:14:22,050 brings alive an original state of almost 346 00:14:28,310 --> 00:14:23,820 Aboriginal consciousness in your own 347 00:14:30,410 --> 00:14:28,320 psyche so John since your book is titled 348 00:14:34,190 --> 00:14:30,420 to divine human and the question I posed 349 00:14:35,510 --> 00:14:34,200 and you answered it about what is it and 350 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:35,520 we're talking about the divine game in 351 00:14:42,170 --> 00:14:38,610 your book which is be getting to a place 352 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:42,180 of space in your life that you begin to 353 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:45,930 experience the oneness of you and 354 00:14:52,100 --> 00:14:49,050 creator that lives inside how does one 355 00:14:53,990 --> 00:14:52,110 really go about becoming that and doing 356 00:14:57,110 --> 00:14:54,000 that in being successful at it I'm sure 357 00:14:59,630 --> 00:14:57,120 your book tells about the path or in 358 00:15:01,910 --> 00:14:59,640 detail how to go about but how does one 359 00:15:04,730 --> 00:15:01,920 find themselves very well on the path of 360 00:15:06,260 --> 00:15:04,740 becoming illumined yes I have lots of 361 00:15:08,690 --> 00:15:06,270 exercises in the book that's all about 362 00:15:11,450 --> 00:15:08,700 that but becoming a divine human is 363 00:15:12,980 --> 00:15:11,460 really a three-stage process we begin by 364 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:12,990 understanding what the Mystics have been 365 00:15:18,890 --> 00:15:14,610 telling us all along about our own 366 00:15:20,450 --> 00:15:18,900 divinity what Whitman says divine and my 367 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:20,460 insight and now that I make holy 368 00:15:24,050 --> 00:15:22,290 whatever I touch and I'm touched from 369 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:24,060 and I've got justice of course like that 370 00:15:28,220 --> 00:15:25,770 they've been telling us all along 371 00:15:30,380 --> 00:15:28,230 that we are already defined we've just 372 00:15:31,430 --> 00:15:30,390 lost the ability to experience so first 373 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:31,440 we have to understand what they're 374 00:15:36,230 --> 00:15:33,690 teaching us secondly we have to start 375 00:15:38,630 --> 00:15:36,240 using spiritual practices to awaken this 376 00:15:39,050 --> 00:15:38,640 actual experience that's really not so 377 00:15:41,270 --> 00:15:39,060 hard 378 00:15:43,190 --> 00:15:41,280 we think that stopping thinking is an 379 00:15:44,870 --> 00:15:43,200 impossible thing and people wrestle with 380 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:44,880 meditation and they and a big soul of 381 00:15:49,130 --> 00:15:47,250 frustrated the meditation I like to 382 00:15:53,060 --> 00:15:49,140 recommend is much more of a sensory 383 00:15:55,580 --> 00:15:53,070 awareness meditation if you are standing 384 00:15:57,140 --> 00:15:55,590 on a tightrope and walking across you 385 00:15:59,030 --> 00:15:57,150 know a body of water for example you 386 00:16:00,890 --> 00:15:59,040 can't think about your resume you can't 387 00:16:02,630 --> 00:16:00,900 think about your portfolio you're so 388 00:16:05,150 --> 00:16:02,640 much in your senses that thinking is 389 00:16:07,130 --> 00:16:05,160 absolutely stopped so this is really 390 00:16:09,890 --> 00:16:07,140 clear that if you become intentionally 391 00:16:11,570 --> 00:16:09,900 awake and aware thinking soft and you 392 00:16:14,150 --> 00:16:11,580 enter a different state of consciousness 393 00:16:15,620 --> 00:16:14,160 in which you are one with the whole and 394 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:15,630 then you begin to experience it so once 395 00:16:21,820 --> 00:16:18,810 you do that over time then this new 396 00:16:23,810 --> 00:16:21,830 divine awareness this new ineffable 397 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:23,820 beautiful state of consciousness begins 398 00:16:29,180 --> 00:16:26,490 to move up to you and progressively 399 00:16:31,550 --> 00:16:29,190 remakes your personality your behavior 400 00:16:32,090 --> 00:16:31,560 your view the world and increasingly you 401 00:16:34,970 --> 00:16:32,100 come in 402 00:16:36,230 --> 00:16:34,980 to quote problems which are really just 403 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:36,240 thoughts as you've made up about a 404 00:16:45,260 --> 00:16:42,690 situation you see through the whole 405 00:16:49,430 --> 00:16:45,270 drama that is the human struggle and you 406 00:16:52,190 --> 00:16:49,440 realize why would I want to do that so 407 00:16:54,380 --> 00:16:52,200 anyways you know one-time thing but over 408 00:16:54,890 --> 00:16:54,390 time you are transform and is part of 409 00:16:56,630 --> 00:16:54,900 Aging 410 00:16:58,310 --> 00:16:56,640 because in ageing all these beliefs 411 00:17:00,080 --> 00:16:58,320 about ourselves just begin to go away 412 00:17:02,420 --> 00:17:00,090 naturally because we're not who we used 413 00:17:05,090 --> 00:17:02,430 to be you know in this new possibility 414 00:17:08,329 --> 00:17:05,100 for consciousness opens up and if we pay 415 00:17:10,100 --> 00:17:08,339 attention to it we open into it you know 416 00:17:13,370 --> 00:17:10,110 John everyone who listened to the show 417 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:13,380 often knows I'm really big about 418 00:17:18,470 --> 00:17:17,010 awareness where when I'm sure there is 419 00:17:20,300 --> 00:17:18,480 I'm sure and of course they're all equal 420 00:17:23,030 --> 00:17:20,310 across the board but I think awareness 421 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:23,040 has to be probably the biggest key 422 00:17:26,900 --> 00:17:25,530 component of spiritual awakening well 423 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:26,910 think about the word awakening the word 424 00:17:31,310 --> 00:17:29,010 awakening synonymous is awareness and 425 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:31,320 when you can become peripherally aware 426 00:17:34,940 --> 00:17:32,970 and even though I'm looking at you on 427 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:34,950 the screen very much where the sound of 428 00:17:38,570 --> 00:17:36,450 air conditioner behind them very much 429 00:17:40,940 --> 00:17:38,580 the heat where the candle does mommy I'm 430 00:17:43,250 --> 00:17:40,950 aware and I remember the last interview 431 00:17:45,470 --> 00:17:43,260 you and I did you were talking about now 432 00:17:47,030 --> 00:17:45,480 when you adjust stage of your life with 433 00:17:49,550 --> 00:17:47,040 this stage of awareness that you have 434 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:49,560 when you with something you are with it 435 00:17:56,840 --> 00:17:53,970 fully you're fully engaged with it yes 436 00:17:59,300 --> 00:17:56,850 there's nothing standing between this 437 00:18:02,650 --> 00:17:59,310 consciousness and what is you normally 438 00:18:05,510 --> 00:18:02,660 we label and explain and define and and 439 00:18:07,610 --> 00:18:05,520 distance ourselves conceptually from the 440 00:18:10,070 --> 00:18:07,620 divine world and when we wake up and 441 00:18:11,690 --> 00:18:10,080 stop thinking and start experiencing 442 00:18:14,420 --> 00:18:11,700 direct sensory awareness of everything 443 00:18:16,250 --> 00:18:14,430 we discovered that the world is it has 444 00:18:18,170 --> 00:18:16,260 always been the divine the divine is in 445 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:18,180 two shapes is divine consciousness and 446 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:22,530 there's divine being so we are when we 447 00:18:25,550 --> 00:18:24,090 enter pure consciousness we are 448 00:18:27,470 --> 00:18:25,560 literally experiencing God's 449 00:18:29,360 --> 00:18:27,480 consciousness and when we bring that 450 00:18:31,460 --> 00:18:29,370 consciousness into our own physical 451 00:18:34,220 --> 00:18:31,470 being we are literally experiencing the 452 00:18:35,780 --> 00:18:34,230 being of God so what we need to do is to 453 00:18:37,670 --> 00:18:35,790 not think about this because that would 454 00:18:40,340 --> 00:18:37,680 take us right out of the experience but 455 00:18:43,100 --> 00:18:40,350 instead to stay in it and to and to 456 00:18:44,900 --> 00:18:43,110 dwell in that state until we feel 457 00:18:45,500 --> 00:18:44,910 ourselves changing there's a sense of 458 00:18:47,450 --> 00:18:45,510 joy 459 00:18:49,010 --> 00:18:47,460 you know that that Hindu phrase thought 460 00:18:51,770 --> 00:18:49,020 she denied the existence consciousness 461 00:18:54,020 --> 00:18:51,780 bliss you realize that it's all that and 462 00:18:55,910 --> 00:18:54,030 then this capacitance aging is about 463 00:18:59,060 --> 00:18:55,920 opening the heart to love and this 464 00:19:02,150 --> 00:18:59,070 process of awakening is about awakening 465 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:02,160 to a kind of love that changes you and 466 00:19:05,900 --> 00:19:04,650 and you just may as I described in the 467 00:19:08,570 --> 00:19:05,910 book over and over again I sometimes 468 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:08,580 have to contain myself from dancing on 469 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:10,410 tabletops and you know think of the 470 00:19:14,570 --> 00:19:11,730 grandkids and swinging them around 471 00:19:19,430 --> 00:19:14,580 because everything is so joyous in this 472 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:19,440 state you brought to my attention you 473 00:19:24,500 --> 00:19:20,730 reminded me of something that happened 474 00:19:26,870 --> 00:19:24,510 today today I was eating some food in a 475 00:19:30,100 --> 00:19:26,880 restaurant and also on the older couple 476 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:30,110 sitting next to me my uh and the 477 00:19:34,100 --> 00:19:32,250 gentleman I didn't know where he went he 478 00:19:35,690 --> 00:19:34,110 disappeared for a moment but I can see 479 00:19:38,690 --> 00:19:35,700 this elderly lady she had to be in a 480 00:19:41,390 --> 00:19:38,700 course on late 80s and she was trying to 481 00:19:43,220 --> 00:19:41,400 hoist yourself above the chair and I saw 482 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:43,230 her trying to move forward two or three 483 00:19:49,340 --> 00:19:47,490 times and I got up motion toward him 484 00:19:50,860 --> 00:19:49,350 grab her hand and help her let me she 485 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:50,870 got up she said thank you young man and 486 00:19:56,870 --> 00:19:53,490 I had a word with the gentleman because 487 00:19:59,180 --> 00:19:56,880 he brought the Walker for her to proceed 488 00:20:01,940 --> 00:19:59,190 to walk out of the building and I had to 489 00:20:05,900 --> 00:20:01,950 control my emotions because what moved 490 00:20:08,210 --> 00:20:05,910 through me wasn't about the patting me 491 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:08,220 on the back for helping this lady what 492 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:12,690 moved through me was the reward in and 493 00:20:18,140 --> 00:20:15,330 of itself it was it was grand he was 494 00:20:19,940 --> 00:20:18,150 expanded in other words it was God 495 00:20:22,370 --> 00:20:19,950 coming through me and I was able to 496 00:20:25,550 --> 00:20:22,380 touch that for the moment when you get 497 00:20:27,770 --> 00:20:25,560 out of the way you lived by this divine 498 00:20:29,630 --> 00:20:27,780 universe it is absolutely beautiful 499 00:20:32,570 --> 00:20:29,640 and I think about older people is that 500 00:20:34,580 --> 00:20:32,580 the outside of them is a disguise that 501 00:20:37,490 --> 00:20:34,590 it looks different it looks old it looks 502 00:20:39,770 --> 00:20:37,500 but on the inside the consciousness is 503 00:20:41,990 --> 00:20:39,780 timeless okay the consciousness is 504 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:42,000 ageless the consciousness is pure if 505 00:20:45,770 --> 00:20:43,890 they pay attention to it it's sort of an 506 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:45,780 entirely different experience rather 507 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:47,250 than feeling sorry for all the people we 508 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:49,890 should say wow they have an opening to a 509 00:20:56,540 --> 00:20:51,690 possibility for experiencing the world 510 00:20:58,690 --> 00:20:56,550 that is glorious and veg I'm good no no 511 00:21:01,239 --> 00:20:58,700 go ahead I could whack on but 512 00:21:02,349 --> 00:21:01,249 yeah what is mysticism how was it 513 00:21:06,549 --> 00:21:02,359 different from religion and spirituality 514 00:21:08,710 --> 00:21:06,559 and who becomes a mystic ha ha good so 515 00:21:10,930 --> 00:21:08,720 mysticism is is really the direct 516 00:21:13,389 --> 00:21:10,940 first-hand experience of God and it 517 00:21:15,129 --> 00:21:13,399 comes in like three flavors there's big 518 00:21:16,690 --> 00:21:15,139 mystical experiences from which all 519 00:21:18,609 --> 00:21:16,700 religions arise there's a smaller 520 00:21:19,930 --> 00:21:18,619 mystical experience is like we're like 521 00:21:21,849 --> 00:21:19,940 when you're a kid and you look up at the 522 00:21:24,039 --> 00:21:21,859 night sky and you go and you're odd just 523 00:21:26,109 --> 00:21:24,049 takes over the first time you see your 524 00:21:27,999 --> 00:21:26,119 brand-new baby and count the toes and 525 00:21:29,950 --> 00:21:28,009 you're in a state of just ecstasy and 526 00:21:31,330 --> 00:21:29,960 then there's mystical consciousness and 527 00:21:33,129 --> 00:21:31,340 that's the state that you can get into 528 00:21:37,060 --> 00:21:33,139 intentionally that has the same quality 529 00:21:38,739 --> 00:21:37,070 so that's mysticism religion is all the 530 00:21:41,349 --> 00:21:38,749 religions are born from the mystical 531 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:41,359 experience a huge experience of divinity 532 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:43,850 of oneness of Revelation is then encoded 533 00:21:48,879 --> 00:21:46,369 in the history Scripture theology and 534 00:21:50,499 --> 00:21:48,889 practices of the religion and this and 535 00:21:53,349 --> 00:21:50,509 the whole bodied religion is meant to 536 00:21:55,629 --> 00:21:53,359 help carry this vision forward so other 537 00:21:57,090 --> 00:21:55,639 people can understand the religious or 538 00:21:59,710 --> 00:21:57,100 spiritual nature of the universe 539 00:22:01,629 --> 00:21:59,720 unfortunately the the ego takes over too 540 00:22:03,820 --> 00:22:01,639 often the conceptual mind takes over too 541 00:22:06,820 --> 00:22:03,830 often a producer we have 10,000 books on 542 00:22:08,919 --> 00:22:06,830 religion when the whole thing is really 543 00:22:10,989 --> 00:22:08,929 about just waking up so we need to 544 00:22:14,649 --> 00:22:10,999 realize that religion has a positive and 545 00:22:17,739 --> 00:22:14,659 the etic side that limits us because one 546 00:22:19,060 --> 00:22:17,749 day we have to leave the conceptual mind 547 00:22:21,190 --> 00:22:19,070 we have to leave our theories our 548 00:22:25,060 --> 00:22:21,200 theologies our beliefs behind us like 549 00:22:27,039 --> 00:22:25,070 Rumi when he was he was the mystic Sufi 550 00:22:29,019 --> 00:22:27,049 mystic and me but it was a university 551 00:22:31,389 --> 00:22:29,029 professor on one day this enlightened 552 00:22:33,430 --> 00:22:31,399 eldest enlightened guy named Shawn's 553 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:33,440 jumps over the fence takes his books 554 00:22:37,239 --> 00:22:34,970 goes into the ground and says now you 555 00:22:39,330 --> 00:22:37,249 must live what you know you see and 556 00:22:41,769 --> 00:22:39,340 that's what the mystic has to do 557 00:22:43,930 --> 00:22:41,779 spirituality is the third prong of this 558 00:22:46,060 --> 00:22:43,940 of this and that is that in every in 559 00:22:48,249 --> 00:22:46,070 every church or synagogue or mosque 560 00:22:50,590 --> 00:22:48,259 there may be say 300 people there will 561 00:22:52,299 --> 00:22:50,600 be one religion but there'll be 300 562 00:22:54,310 --> 00:22:52,309 different spiritualities because each of 563 00:22:56,379 --> 00:22:54,320 us has to make sense that of the 564 00:22:59,229 --> 00:22:56,389 teaching our own personal experiences 565 00:23:01,479 --> 00:22:59,239 the life experiences we've had and so 566 00:23:03,369 --> 00:23:01,489 the spiritual journey is the one of 567 00:23:05,950 --> 00:23:03,379 moving from general knowledge to 568 00:23:08,049 --> 00:23:05,960 personal knowledge then is the mystical 569 00:23:09,759 --> 00:23:08,059 knowledge which is transcending belief 570 00:23:12,430 --> 00:23:09,769 systems into the first-hand experience 571 00:23:14,530 --> 00:23:12,440 of the divine world I hope that 572 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:14,540 explained it very clearly very clear 573 00:23:18,370 --> 00:23:16,010 when I went where I was going to go with 574 00:23:21,940 --> 00:23:18,380 when I told you the story about the old 575 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:21,950 lady that I helped was how God moves 576 00:23:25,630 --> 00:23:24,410 inside and how we begin to recognize it 577 00:23:27,340 --> 00:23:25,640 because that's a question I posed a 578 00:23:29,110 --> 00:23:27,350 little earlier someone said something 579 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:29,120 really really short and to the point I 580 00:23:32,860 --> 00:23:30,650 thought it was just really really cool 581 00:23:35,140 --> 00:23:32,870 yesterday if you want to find out what 582 00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:35,150 God is it's imagination it's your own 583 00:23:43,090 --> 00:23:38,530 imagination because if God created 584 00:23:45,310 --> 00:23:43,100 humans in this image in its image is 585 00:23:48,550 --> 00:23:45,320 imagination and lightness as we think 586 00:23:50,110 --> 00:23:48,560 therefore we create someone simply put 587 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:50,120 it put it to me yesterday just saying 588 00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:52,850 imagination it's imagination the ability 589 00:23:59,140 --> 00:23:56,810 to conceive we are not different from 590 00:24:01,240 --> 00:23:59,150 the divine so that everything that moves 591 00:24:03,490 --> 00:24:01,250 through us is the divine moving viewers 592 00:24:05,950 --> 00:24:03,500 including imagination the problem is 593 00:24:08,020 --> 00:24:05,960 when when we get this idea of ourselves 594 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:08,030 as being separate from all that then the 595 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:09,890 egos think starts to take over things 596 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:12,890 and begin to exploit imagination for for 597 00:24:16,750 --> 00:24:14,570 self aggrandizing reasons and that's 598 00:24:18,550 --> 00:24:16,760 when we get in trouble but yeah remain 599 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:18,560 out of God it's happening all the time 600 00:24:23,470 --> 00:24:20,930 we are what God is and part of this book 601 00:24:26,050 --> 00:24:23,480 is really about finding the space and 602 00:24:28,090 --> 00:24:26,060 the quiet and the deep self connection 603 00:24:31,390 --> 00:24:28,100 to be able to say I am what God is and 604 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:31,400 then experience that rising up inside as 605 00:24:36,700 --> 00:24:36,410 your very own pure essential nature love 606 00:24:38,620 --> 00:24:36,710 it 607 00:24:41,020 --> 00:24:38,630 you know about I've always used this 608 00:24:43,450 --> 00:24:41,030 when I do talks is you know if you're a 609 00:24:46,150 --> 00:24:43,460 person of Scripture and you've read that 610 00:24:48,430 --> 00:24:46,160 God is omnipresent okay we can all agree 611 00:24:50,350 --> 00:24:48,440 that the dictionary is our resource for 612 00:24:54,010 --> 00:24:50,360 language it's a book that was created to 613 00:24:55,450 --> 00:24:54,020 convey thought ideas and concepts so we 614 00:24:57,340 --> 00:24:55,460 now go to Webster's and we look up 615 00:25:00,220 --> 00:24:57,350 omnipresent it says present in all 616 00:25:03,970 --> 00:25:00,230 places at all times so there's no place 617 00:25:05,740 --> 00:25:03,980 it is not so if it's everything it's the 618 00:25:07,300 --> 00:25:05,750 shirt it's the chair I'm sitting on just 619 00:25:08,650 --> 00:25:07,310 a microphone it's the sounds coming out 620 00:25:12,670 --> 00:25:08,660 of the speakers with those listening if 621 00:25:16,510 --> 00:25:12,680 it's me it's my skin it's everything and 622 00:25:19,750 --> 00:25:16,520 it's our task to become a weight to the 623 00:25:21,850 --> 00:25:19,760 fact to experience that you define this 624 00:25:24,820 --> 00:25:21,860 of every single thing the luminosity of 625 00:25:25,820 --> 00:25:24,830 all being it's a wonderful experience 626 00:25:28,009 --> 00:25:25,830 and so 627 00:25:29,629 --> 00:25:28,019 we get so tangled up in our thinking we 628 00:25:30,979 --> 00:25:29,639 have to go someplace to be someone that 629 00:25:33,639 --> 00:25:30,989 we forget they were already there 630 00:25:35,570 --> 00:25:33,649 there's no place to go this is it 631 00:25:37,249 --> 00:25:35,580 John we have a question from the chat 632 00:25:39,259 --> 00:25:37,259 room from John Daniel he asked the 633 00:25:41,869 --> 00:25:39,269 question does dr. Robinson used 634 00:25:46,129 --> 00:25:41,879 out-of-body experiences in his form of 635 00:25:47,479 --> 00:25:46,139 sensory meditation well I haven't but 636 00:25:48,799 --> 00:25:47,489 I've always been intrigued without a 637 00:25:50,509 --> 00:25:48,809 body experiences I think they're 638 00:25:54,139 --> 00:25:50,519 absolutely amazing and the near-death 639 00:25:56,210 --> 00:25:54,149 experiences too we build a conceptual 640 00:25:59,029 --> 00:25:56,220 frame around consciousness and believe 641 00:26:00,649 --> 00:25:59,039 therefore that that's me but it isn't so 642 00:26:02,180 --> 00:26:00,659 it's not at all surprising that we leave 643 00:26:04,399 --> 00:26:02,190 that frame and half out-of-body 644 00:26:07,099 --> 00:26:04,409 experiences but I haven't been using 645 00:26:09,590 --> 00:26:07,109 them personally I love to yeah you and I 646 00:26:10,879 --> 00:26:09,600 shared a couple of my stories last time 647 00:26:13,340 --> 00:26:10,889 we interviewed some of the mystical 648 00:26:14,450 --> 00:26:13,350 stuff that happens when sometimes I wish 649 00:26:16,159 --> 00:26:14,460 you would have a little more often when 650 00:26:18,950 --> 00:26:16,169 I fall asleep so let me ask you a 651 00:26:23,180 --> 00:26:18,960 question what changes when we learn to 652 00:26:25,820 --> 00:26:23,190 experience our own divinity well several 653 00:26:29,389 --> 00:26:25,830 things identities problems goals and 654 00:26:31,519 --> 00:26:29,399 beliefs begin to disappear because there 655 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:31,529 are only structures of mind okay so I 656 00:26:35,389 --> 00:26:33,690 walk out there and I I can easily create 657 00:26:37,340 --> 00:26:35,399 a whole bunch of problems and say 658 00:26:38,869 --> 00:26:37,350 someone is cut me off of the road or 659 00:26:40,369 --> 00:26:38,879 this person doesn't like me or I should 660 00:26:41,779 --> 00:26:40,379 be have more money or whatever we can 661 00:26:43,279 --> 00:26:41,789 generate products but in this state of 662 00:26:46,070 --> 00:26:43,289 consciousness which is free of thought 663 00:26:48,409 --> 00:26:46,080 that doesn't exist and as we dissolve 664 00:26:51,470 --> 00:26:48,419 the multiple lenses of thought that 665 00:26:53,330 --> 00:26:51,480 obscure the Radian ground of being the 666 00:26:56,269 --> 00:26:53,340 world grows brighter and more luminous 667 00:26:57,830 --> 00:26:56,279 more beautiful and holy and literally we 668 00:27:00,649 --> 00:26:57,840 begin to see heaven on earth that never 669 00:27:02,239 --> 00:27:00,659 left we left we thought that we were in 670 00:27:04,549 --> 00:27:02,249 the wrong place we thought that we had 671 00:27:06,409 --> 00:27:04,559 to be overcome our badness but it was 672 00:27:08,299 --> 00:27:06,419 all a mistake it was all mistaken 673 00:27:11,299 --> 00:27:08,309 assumption and then as we happened to 674 00:27:13,159 --> 00:27:11,309 our own Divine Being we discovered the 675 00:27:15,379 --> 00:27:13,169 bliss love and spiritual wisdom that's 676 00:27:19,609 --> 00:27:15,389 always the part of the divine ground 677 00:27:21,979 --> 00:27:19,619 okay so that there's a sense of joy that 678 00:27:23,659 --> 00:27:21,989 gives you freedom that you use what it's 679 00:27:25,639 --> 00:27:23,669 like those old songs from the sixties 680 00:27:27,529 --> 00:27:25,649 you know just grooving down the road it 681 00:27:29,810 --> 00:27:27,539 feels so good to have this light playing 682 00:27:31,849 --> 00:27:29,820 on your forehead and see the speckled 683 00:27:34,009 --> 00:27:31,859 pattern of Sun and shadow and you you 684 00:27:37,039 --> 00:27:34,019 literally move into a different space of 685 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:37,049 awareness that is so genuinely joyful 686 00:27:39,470 --> 00:27:39,090 that the problems of the world really go 687 00:27:42,290 --> 00:27:39,480 away 688 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:42,300 then we increasingly become what God is 689 00:27:47,390 --> 00:27:44,970 God we see through God's eyes the mystic 690 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:47,400 sabatelli is that God sees through our 691 00:27:51,260 --> 00:27:49,410 eyes hears through our ears and feels 692 00:27:53,900 --> 00:27:51,270 through our touched that and that 693 00:27:56,180 --> 00:27:53,910 actually you let the self get dissolve 694 00:27:58,880 --> 00:27:56,190 out of the way we become that which God 695 00:28:00,830 --> 00:27:58,890 is not that we are the only thing God is 696 00:28:03,500 --> 00:28:00,840 but everything is one with God and 697 00:28:06,170 --> 00:28:03,510 therefore when we are not God is through 698 00:28:08,030 --> 00:28:06,180 us and if we were there the wars would 699 00:28:10,510 --> 00:28:08,040 disappear the hunger would disappear 700 00:28:12,980 --> 00:28:10,520 that all these do because the mind 701 00:28:15,260 --> 00:28:12,990 divides people and separates and 702 00:28:16,670 --> 00:28:15,270 segregates things and then judges things 703 00:28:18,530 --> 00:28:16,680 good and bad and pretty soon we have 704 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:18,540 wars and conflicts none it's all a 705 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:20,850 construction and fabrication of the left 706 00:28:27,380 --> 00:28:25,170 brain I like that we talked about what 707 00:28:29,300 --> 00:28:27,390 the Mystics have to say that God sees 708 00:28:31,610 --> 00:28:29,310 through our eyes and listens through our 709 00:28:35,510 --> 00:28:31,620 ears well whose eyes and ears in it well 710 00:28:37,820 --> 00:28:35,520 it's mind and it's like as people often 711 00:28:39,260 --> 00:28:37,830 point to themself John I've only seen 712 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:39,270 one person in my life point like this 713 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:41,250 point you so then you point out here 714 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:42,930 okay now take it a point to God and you 715 00:28:47,300 --> 00:28:45,690 point here to say well that it's 716 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:47,310 anonymous you know when you point you to 717 00:28:53,540 --> 00:28:50,610 yourself really also so what do we do 718 00:28:57,740 --> 00:28:53,550 how do we get rid of the blocks how do 719 00:28:59,000 --> 00:28:57,750 we consciously become aware of the fact 720 00:29:00,730 --> 00:28:59,010 that we divine what are some of the 721 00:29:04,100 --> 00:29:00,740 ideas you can bring forth about that I 722 00:29:06,350 --> 00:29:04,110 mean I mean there's been such a taboo 723 00:29:10,220 --> 00:29:06,360 about that I mean it's been considered 724 00:29:12,470 --> 00:29:10,230 you know sacrilege to say that I am God 725 00:29:14,180 --> 00:29:12,480 I mean and and and that's because 726 00:29:15,290 --> 00:29:14,190 religious authority does not want us to 727 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:15,300 say that because they want to maintain 728 00:29:19,070 --> 00:29:17,010 an authority over what is true and false 729 00:29:21,050 --> 00:29:19,080 and what we should believe but so that 730 00:29:22,700 --> 00:29:21,060 if you as a mystic realize you don't 731 00:29:24,140 --> 00:29:22,710 need anybody else to tell you what you 732 00:29:27,470 --> 00:29:24,150 believe because you experience at 733 00:29:30,860 --> 00:29:27,480 firsthand then then that resolves a lot 734 00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:30,870 of problems and so first of all we've 735 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:32,850 got to get past the idea that it's wrong 736 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:34,650 to feel this way and the second thing we 737 00:29:39,650 --> 00:29:36,330 need to do is practice feeling this way 738 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:39,660 you know the fact of sitting very very 739 00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:41,850 still learning to quiet your mind and 740 00:29:47,390 --> 00:29:44,850 then simply saying I am what God is and 741 00:29:50,690 --> 00:29:47,400 it's like it's like a monster oh so it's 742 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:50,700 like a phrase that you can repeat inside 743 00:29:55,340 --> 00:29:53,370 and it sends a sonar down 744 00:29:57,440 --> 00:29:55,350 of your Divine Being and you wait for it 745 00:30:02,030 --> 00:29:57,450 to come back as an experience you say I 746 00:30:03,500 --> 00:30:02,040 am what God is or I am God's being or 747 00:30:06,110 --> 00:30:03,510 this is God's consciousness whatever you 748 00:30:07,970 --> 00:30:06,120 want to use and you say that and you 749 00:30:10,820 --> 00:30:07,980 begin to edit you begin to wake up and 750 00:30:12,799 --> 00:30:10,830 you begin to realize that this God is in 751 00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:12,809 the depths of your own being waiting to 752 00:30:17,510 --> 00:30:15,090 be invited to flow up into your essence 753 00:30:18,799 --> 00:30:17,520 so as you as you do this without 754 00:30:20,420 --> 00:30:18,809 obstruction without saying oh I 755 00:30:22,460 --> 00:30:20,430 shouldn't feel this way or now I have to 756 00:30:24,350 --> 00:30:22,470 think about this don't don't ruin by 757 00:30:26,330 --> 00:30:24,360 thinking about it just let it come up 758 00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:26,340 and then go outside into the wilderness 759 00:30:32,990 --> 00:30:29,730 or into the edge of the treaty's or into 760 00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:33,000 a daycare program and just see what you 761 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:34,770 see now from this altered state of 762 00:30:40,549 --> 00:30:37,770 consciousness all of this is so simple 763 00:30:43,010 --> 00:30:40,559 we make it hard by thinking about it by 764 00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:43,020 thinking it's hard by feeling we have to 765 00:30:49,190 --> 00:30:44,850 find more experts to teach us how to do 766 00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:49,200 it yeah we've become difficult we've 767 00:30:56,030 --> 00:30:52,770 learned difficulty we've lost simplicity 768 00:30:58,370 --> 00:30:56,040 yeah yeah we were all enlightened at the 769 00:31:03,130 --> 00:30:58,380 age of four you know at three there was 770 00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:03,140 no you know a concept between my being 771 00:31:09,049 --> 00:31:06,330 totally enchanted by the world and and 772 00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:09,059 the world is being a magical place there 773 00:31:12,980 --> 00:31:10,770 was nothing changing and then through 774 00:31:15,140 --> 00:31:12,990 education of parents and peers also 775 00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:15,150 began to realize that although I'm an 776 00:31:19,549 --> 00:31:17,850 object I and I have to evaluate myself 777 00:31:20,870 --> 00:31:19,559 I'm good or a bad object and now I have 778 00:31:23,990 --> 00:31:20,880 to approve myself because they're full 779 00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:24,000 of laws and there goes the journey of 780 00:31:28,700 --> 00:31:26,850 life that we do for the next 40 or 50 60 781 00:31:30,730 --> 00:31:28,710 years trying to be good enough which is 782 00:31:34,250 --> 00:31:30,740 an entirely a made-up scripted narrative 783 00:31:36,230 --> 00:31:34,260 that strangles us you know with this 784 00:31:37,130 --> 00:31:36,240 tyranny when and then aging when all 785 00:31:38,870 --> 00:31:37,140 that falls apart 786 00:31:41,090 --> 00:31:38,880 we realize we're back to where we 787 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:41,100 started and it was always okay it was 788 00:31:44,540 --> 00:31:43,170 always just beautiful 789 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:44,550 let me I want to give you a really 790 00:31:49,130 --> 00:31:47,130 interesting example from this research 791 00:31:50,750 --> 00:31:49,140 I've been exploring recently that I 792 00:31:53,780 --> 00:31:50,760 there was very aware of when I was in 793 00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:53,790 graduate school in psychology there is a 794 00:31:59,600 --> 00:31:56,730 split brain research that Sperry and 795 00:32:01,820 --> 00:31:59,610 Gazzaniga did what happened was the 796 00:32:03,110 --> 00:32:01,830 people who had uncontrollable seizure 797 00:32:04,220 --> 00:32:03,120 disorders they would start to were 798 00:32:06,169 --> 00:32:04,230 inside the brain and then they would 799 00:32:07,220 --> 00:32:06,179 take over the whole brain and so when 800 00:32:08,509 --> 00:32:07,230 medications of 801 00:32:10,759 --> 00:32:08,519 some people nothing would help what they 802 00:32:12,980 --> 00:32:10,769 did was was a neurosurgery that severed 803 00:32:14,690 --> 00:32:12,990 the corpus callosum which is a thick 804 00:32:17,389 --> 00:32:14,700 band of fibers across the two 805 00:32:19,370 --> 00:32:17,399 hemispheres so when they did that the 806 00:32:20,629 --> 00:32:19,380 seizure could not migrate from one side 807 00:32:22,789 --> 00:32:20,639 to the other one had certain amount of 808 00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:22,799 practical usefulness but then they began 809 00:32:25,610 --> 00:32:24,690 to find some really interesting things 810 00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:25,620 start to happen 811 00:32:29,180 --> 00:32:27,450 a guy might be getting ready to go to 812 00:32:31,009 --> 00:32:29,190 work and he's beginning to poop his 813 00:32:33,110 --> 00:32:31,019 pants with his right hand which is the 814 00:32:35,570 --> 00:32:33,120 left brain his left hand would push it 815 00:32:37,009 --> 00:32:35,580 away and wouldn't want to do it or he'd 816 00:32:40,129 --> 00:32:37,019 be trying to hug his wife with his right 817 00:32:41,899 --> 00:32:40,139 hand with a ten-week pushing away or the 818 00:32:43,370 --> 00:32:41,909 right so I didn't break it is that you 819 00:32:45,139 --> 00:32:43,380 have to understand how they did this but 820 00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:45,149 it's all entirely scientifically 821 00:32:49,009 --> 00:32:47,250 demonstrable either the left side of the 822 00:32:50,930 --> 00:32:49,019 brain was asked whether it believed God 823 00:32:52,549 --> 00:32:50,940 had said no the right side of the brain 824 00:32:54,889 --> 00:32:52,559 was that's whether believed God said yes 825 00:32:57,980 --> 00:32:54,899 there was a worth of example that came 826 00:33:00,440 --> 00:32:57,990 out with this woman this woman who had 827 00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:00,450 this surgery every time she began to 828 00:33:04,850 --> 00:33:02,250 smoke with her right hand her left hand 829 00:33:07,039 --> 00:33:04,860 would slap her upside the head well it 830 00:33:09,470 --> 00:33:07,049 turns out well so here's the example I 831 00:33:11,930 --> 00:33:09,480 want to share this woman named novo 832 00:33:13,250 --> 00:33:11,940 Taylor who is a neuroscientist you know 833 00:33:15,500 --> 00:33:13,260 who really understands the brain 834 00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:15,510 structure had a left hemisphere stroke 835 00:33:19,519 --> 00:33:17,610 the left hemisphere is where all the 836 00:33:21,500 --> 00:33:19,529 beliefs and ideas and speech and 837 00:33:23,299 --> 00:33:21,510 language and stuff gets stored so it 838 00:33:26,659 --> 00:33:23,309 didn't work it couldn't override her 839 00:33:29,269 --> 00:33:26,669 system so as she began to to drift into 840 00:33:31,490 --> 00:33:29,279 this new state of consciousness this is 841 00:33:33,379 --> 00:33:31,500 what she began to experience she said in 842 00:33:36,110 --> 00:33:33,389 the absence of my left hemispheres 843 00:33:38,769 --> 00:33:36,120 analytical judgment I was completely 844 00:33:42,110 --> 00:33:38,779 entranced by feelings of tranquility 845 00:33:44,509 --> 00:33:42,120 safety blessedness euphoria omniscience 846 00:33:47,659 --> 00:33:44,519 my left hemisphere had been trained to 847 00:33:49,820 --> 00:33:47,669 perceive myself as a solid separate from 848 00:33:51,289 --> 00:33:49,830 others now released from that 849 00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:51,299 restrictive circuitry my right 850 00:33:57,620 --> 00:33:54,090 hemisphere relished in its attachment to 851 00:34:00,169 --> 00:33:57,630 the eternal flow whereby I exist at one 852 00:34:02,299 --> 00:34:00,179 with the universe it is the seat of my 853 00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:02,309 divine mind and no other wise woman she 854 00:34:09,530 --> 00:34:05,130 says for all my life I really had been a 855 00:34:12,919 --> 00:34:09,540 figment of my own imagination okay being 856 00:34:15,889 --> 00:34:12,929 of life gay raiding life into the world 857 00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:15,899 so what I found absolutely fascinating 858 00:34:19,849 --> 00:34:18,450 about this is that the right hemisphere 859 00:34:20,720 --> 00:34:19,859 consciousness always there it just 860 00:34:23,419 --> 00:34:20,730 doesn't have 861 00:34:26,210 --> 00:34:23,429 a capacity for verbal speech so it can't 862 00:34:27,260 --> 00:34:26,220 interrupt a lot so mostly in the old 863 00:34:28,639 --> 00:34:27,270 days used to be called the silent 864 00:34:31,310 --> 00:34:28,649 hemisphere because people thought 865 00:34:33,349 --> 00:34:31,320 nothing went on in there when the left 866 00:34:35,119 --> 00:34:33,359 is quieted either through meditation or 867 00:34:37,700 --> 00:34:35,129 practice spiritual practices or by 868 00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:37,710 stroke many the right hemisphere comes 869 00:34:41,750 --> 00:34:39,450 online and this new kind of 870 00:34:43,159 --> 00:34:41,760 consciousness expense Rob dodge so I'm 871 00:34:45,230 --> 00:34:43,169 sure you know how to left hemisphere 872 00:34:46,940 --> 00:34:45,240 stroke and he doesn't have very good 873 00:34:51,530 --> 00:34:46,950 speech now but he's the happiest guy I 874 00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:51,540 have ever seen it had the same thing it 875 00:34:55,629 --> 00:34:53,490 was a Catholic priest that lived for 876 00:34:58,310 --> 00:34:55,639 like 30 years in India and was really 877 00:35:00,290 --> 00:34:58,320 beautifully ensconced unaware of go all 878 00:35:01,970 --> 00:35:00,300 to all mystical traditions of both 879 00:35:05,150 --> 00:35:01,980 cultures when he had his left hemisphere 880 00:35:08,620 --> 00:35:05,160 stroke he felt as if he finally 881 00:35:11,420 --> 00:35:08,630 succeeded or transcended this this 882 00:35:13,310 --> 00:35:11,430 tyranny of the of the left patriarchal 883 00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:13,320 brain so that he could finally be one 884 00:35:17,359 --> 00:35:14,210 with the universe 885 00:35:19,849 --> 00:35:17,369 what's really interesting is this divine 886 00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:19,859 consciousness is always in us it's 887 00:35:23,660 --> 00:35:21,810 always trying to get our attention 888 00:35:26,390 --> 00:35:23,670 we just are pay attention because we're 889 00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:26,400 so caught up with our belief systems so 890 00:35:32,330 --> 00:35:28,410 the mentality so Jon how do how do how 891 00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:32,340 do we know we're being spoken to how do 892 00:35:35,390 --> 00:35:33,690 we know how do we differentiate that 893 00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:35,400 from all the bullcrap starts but just 894 00:35:40,849 --> 00:35:38,130 try to take over okay you've got to have 895 00:35:42,140 --> 00:35:40,859 no thought it's about no thought if you 896 00:35:44,060 --> 00:35:42,150 have thought then you're beat that 897 00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:44,070 you're being called into the left brain 898 00:35:46,580 --> 00:35:45,090 you can be tricked you're going to say 899 00:35:47,900 --> 00:35:46,590 am i is this really happening then 900 00:35:50,150 --> 00:35:47,910 you're going to start thinking about 901 00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:50,160 whether it's really happening okay what 902 00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:51,890 you want to do is stop thinking 903 00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:54,450 heightened awareness come into a pure 904 00:36:00,440 --> 00:35:57,210 sensory mode of consciousness and then 905 00:36:03,349 --> 00:36:00,450 awaken what I would call the aw response 906 00:36:06,050 --> 00:36:03,359 a WEP all we all know how to do all you 907 00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:06,060 know like like when you fall in love or 908 00:36:12,890 --> 00:36:08,130 when you're in enormous waterfall they 909 00:36:14,780 --> 00:36:12,900 go oh you know that's all so you know 910 00:36:16,910 --> 00:36:14,790 how to stop thinking you know how to 911 00:36:18,170 --> 00:36:16,920 heighten the awareness because if you 912 00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:18,180 were in a room at night and you heard 913 00:36:22,270 --> 00:36:20,130 something thump in the bedroom when 914 00:36:25,130 --> 00:36:22,280 there's nobody there you'd wake right up 915 00:36:26,510 --> 00:36:25,140 and if you add it all of that you now 916 00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:26,520 have a state of consciousness that's 917 00:36:32,330 --> 00:36:29,850 free of thought in that state just pay 918 00:36:33,910 --> 00:36:32,340 attention if you start thinking about it 919 00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:33,920 you go back into the left 920 00:36:38,109 --> 00:36:36,650 just be there and let that state expand 921 00:36:40,240 --> 00:36:38,119 and pretty soon you'll notice that 922 00:36:42,849 --> 00:36:40,250 you're being lived by something else 923 00:36:46,870 --> 00:36:42,859 that's the divine self so are you saying 924 00:36:48,910 --> 00:36:46,880 that you could fake the all well I guess 925 00:36:50,890 --> 00:36:48,920 you could I mean how you fortune yeah 926 00:36:53,349 --> 00:36:50,900 thank God no no but you could evoke all 927 00:36:55,420 --> 00:36:53,359 evoke that's the word thank you you can 928 00:36:57,849 --> 00:36:55,430 evoke all usually by calling it oh yes 929 00:37:00,130 --> 00:36:57,859 oh my gosh anything you look the pic of 930 00:37:02,980 --> 00:37:00,140 flower look at it and begin to feel all 931 00:37:06,370 --> 00:37:02,990 because it is absolutely a magnificent 932 00:37:08,530 --> 00:37:06,380 mystery a mystical mirror so and the 933 00:37:10,780 --> 00:37:08,540 more you look at you you're all opens up 934 00:37:14,260 --> 00:37:10,790 and you begin to see that it is full of 935 00:37:16,620 --> 00:37:14,270 divinity always was we just we just gave 936 00:37:21,549 --> 00:37:16,630 it a name and went on to the next thing 937 00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:21,559 so allowing one's self to take in if 938 00:37:25,450 --> 00:37:23,210 we're looking at a flower or if you're 939 00:37:28,750 --> 00:37:25,460 looking at your child whatever it is 940 00:37:31,240 --> 00:37:28,760 allowing yourself to be in that place of 941 00:37:33,190 --> 00:37:31,250 invoking all like I'm really going to 942 00:37:36,910 --> 00:37:33,200 look at this I'm really going to take it 943 00:37:38,859 --> 00:37:36,920 in fully that's that is what will pop 944 00:37:41,859 --> 00:37:38,869 you open in your awareness yes and then 945 00:37:42,849 --> 00:37:41,869 more information comes in yeah yeah 946 00:37:44,140 --> 00:37:42,859 right right 947 00:37:46,900 --> 00:37:44,150 bring that thoughts and consciousness 948 00:37:49,690 --> 00:37:46,910 into your being the being of your being 949 00:37:51,670 --> 00:37:49,700 if you physicality and as you feel the 950 00:37:53,589 --> 00:37:51,680 being of the business or third mystics 951 00:37:55,990 --> 00:37:53,599 all talk about you discover this sense 952 00:37:57,940 --> 00:37:56,000 of joy and then what you want to do you 953 00:37:59,890 --> 00:37:57,950 want to start loving everything because 954 00:38:01,990 --> 00:37:59,900 the love becomes through the whole state 955 00:38:05,380 --> 00:38:02,000 of being because not being being 956 00:38:07,780 --> 00:38:05,390 suppressed by thinking so which is not 957 00:38:09,549 --> 00:38:07,790 that hard to do is just we always get 958 00:38:11,079 --> 00:38:09,559 distracted by they say all resistor I 959 00:38:12,789 --> 00:38:11,089 mean I should be doing something else I 960 00:38:14,140 --> 00:38:12,799 mean I should read a book more you're 961 00:38:15,700 --> 00:38:14,150 not going to find it in books you're 962 00:38:17,890 --> 00:38:15,710 going to find it in this first hand 963 00:38:21,940 --> 00:38:17,900 awakened state which you can do right 964 00:38:24,460 --> 00:38:21,950 now it's here it's brilliant 965 00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:24,470 I ate a cake eighteen eight nine one 966 00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:26,210 nine two three five five triple eight 967 00:38:29,829 --> 00:38:28,490 nine one nine two three five five s is 968 00:38:31,950 --> 00:38:29,839 your number two now if you want to speak 969 00:38:37,710 --> 00:38:31,960 to myself or my phenomenal dear friend 970 00:38:40,900 --> 00:38:37,720 yesterday John si Robertson so John I 971 00:38:42,490 --> 00:38:40,910 did receive your ebook and we can bet 972 00:38:44,349 --> 00:38:42,500 I'm gonna dive into it anything I need 973 00:38:47,380 --> 00:38:44,359 to know before I dive in it's something 974 00:38:50,849 --> 00:38:47,390 that may help me take it all in 975 00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:50,859 you know well you know you've always 976 00:38:55,900 --> 00:38:53,930 passionately known that you were divine 977 00:38:58,390 --> 00:38:55,910 you just didn't have to have words for 978 00:39:00,670 --> 00:38:58,400 it it was the magic of early childhood 979 00:39:03,519 --> 00:39:00,680 that got him that God with no goodbye 980 00:39:05,799 --> 00:39:03,529 beliefs about your inferiority and your 981 00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:05,809 flawed Ness so that it was always so 982 00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:07,970 this is about rediscovering it so I 983 00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:09,890 always knew when I was a young child I I 984 00:39:15,039 --> 00:39:12,410 remember the very moment where I was 985 00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:15,049 just I just was jumping from furniture 986 00:39:20,380 --> 00:39:17,210 to furniture I just felt so alive with 987 00:39:22,180 --> 00:39:20,390 my I notice what was going on around me 988 00:39:23,589 --> 00:39:22,190 my older brother was being important 989 00:39:26,380 --> 00:39:23,599 that my mother was looking at them and I 990 00:39:28,319 --> 00:39:26,390 saw this I suddenly got that this was 991 00:39:31,089 --> 00:39:28,329 not enough that you had to be a 992 00:39:33,519 --> 00:39:31,099 successful object in the world 993 00:39:36,519 --> 00:39:33,529 and I remember feeling oh my god that's 994 00:39:38,670 --> 00:39:36,529 so disappointing do I really have to do 995 00:39:42,250 --> 00:39:38,680 that but it was clear that the entire 996 00:39:43,660 --> 00:39:42,260 culture you expected that of you and so 997 00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:43,670 I would encourage you when you start 998 00:39:49,329 --> 00:39:47,450 reading this book to not do that okay no 999 00:39:51,609 --> 00:39:49,339 expectations just go into this 1000 00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:51,619 experience very experiential book you'll 1001 00:39:55,900 --> 00:39:53,690 have them you'll hear my experience of 1002 00:39:58,019 --> 00:39:55,910 being a divine human and that should 1003 00:40:01,240 --> 00:39:58,029 evoke your experience and then these 1004 00:40:02,529 --> 00:40:01,250 exercises that will stir it up and just 1005 00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:02,539 have confidence that it's going to 1006 00:40:09,519 --> 00:40:04,970 happen it's already there the only 1007 00:40:11,559 --> 00:40:09,529 barrier is you is your belief system how 1008 00:40:14,079 --> 00:40:11,569 does aging bring out the experience of 1009 00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:14,089 the divine human in us 1010 00:40:20,890 --> 00:40:17,210 well some in so many different ways you 1011 00:40:22,809 --> 00:40:20,900 know first because we become as we get 1012 00:40:25,089 --> 00:40:22,819 closer to death our consciousness begins 1013 00:40:26,740 --> 00:40:25,099 to change anyway as we age I mean 1014 00:40:29,769 --> 00:40:26,750 there's three stages of aging there's a 1015 00:40:31,240 --> 00:40:29,779 young old you know 50 60 to 70 who who 1016 00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:31,250 don't really feel old at all I think 1017 00:40:34,990 --> 00:40:32,450 they're going to conquer aging you know 1018 00:40:36,730 --> 00:40:35,000 with creams and exercise and surgeries 1019 00:40:38,380 --> 00:40:36,740 and so forth well that only works for a 1020 00:40:39,789 --> 00:40:38,390 while aging wins but that doesn't mean 1021 00:40:41,789 --> 00:40:39,799 we lose it just means we have to 1022 00:40:45,309 --> 00:40:41,799 surrender to a life transforming 1023 00:40:47,769 --> 00:40:45,319 experience and so the second stage 72 1024 00:40:49,900 --> 00:40:47,779 you know maybe the mid-80s we begin to 1025 00:40:52,990 --> 00:40:49,910 realize that we're aging and we begin 1026 00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:53,000 get intuitions if we just quiet the mind 1027 00:40:58,240 --> 00:40:55,490 we begin to get intuitions of the veil 1028 00:41:00,790 --> 00:40:58,250 becoming thinner and about the positive 1029 00:41:02,740 --> 00:41:00,800 possibility of moving beyond 1030 00:41:04,630 --> 00:41:02,750 here's where dreams coming of the dreams 1031 00:41:06,460 --> 00:41:04,640 that people who are close to death are 1032 00:41:09,430 --> 00:41:06,470 not grim and they're not terrible they 1033 00:41:11,890 --> 00:41:09,440 are dreams of new life of trees growing 1034 00:41:16,930 --> 00:41:11,900 a blossoming or I have a dream recently 1035 00:41:19,450 --> 00:41:16,940 where where I instead I'm standing in 1036 00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:19,460 our own house and my father walked out 1037 00:41:23,410 --> 00:41:21,770 from behind me I look around and I say 1038 00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:23,420 what are you doing here how could you be 1039 00:41:25,450 --> 00:41:24,890 here I mean you know what are you doing 1040 00:41:27,940 --> 00:41:25,460 here dad 1041 00:41:29,860 --> 00:41:27,950 and basically says to me I'm so happy 1042 00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:29,870 about what you're doing I came to see 1043 00:41:35,110 --> 00:41:33,170 you I wanted to tell you that Wow and he 1044 00:41:37,270 --> 00:41:35,120 gave me a hug and this is not a dream 1045 00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:37,280 ugh this is not a symbolic god this guy 1046 00:41:42,190 --> 00:41:40,130 was there I could smell him I could feel 1047 00:41:44,230 --> 00:41:42,200 um I could taste him it was so wonderful 1048 00:41:45,460 --> 00:41:44,240 to have him back with me and basically 1049 00:41:47,770 --> 00:41:45,470 he said because I've been writing a lot 1050 00:41:49,380 --> 00:41:47,780 about you know the divine world and that 1051 00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:49,390 happiness already here and he was saying 1052 00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:52,610 we I'm from the other side want to come 1053 00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:55,010 back into this world to help you the end 1054 00:41:58,990 --> 00:41:57,050 session and indigenous peoples from all 1055 00:42:01,990 --> 00:41:59,000 cultures have been saying this forever 1056 00:42:04,750 --> 00:42:02,000 that the ancestors are still involved in 1057 00:42:06,250 --> 00:42:04,760 this world you know and scientific 1058 00:42:08,500 --> 00:42:06,260 materialism we say well that's not 1059 00:42:10,810 --> 00:42:08,510 possible their dad their bone but that's 1060 00:42:12,820 --> 00:42:10,820 not true and so dreams like this and I 1061 00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:12,830 had a number of them my dead son came 1062 00:42:18,700 --> 00:42:15,410 back and gave me this hug about eight 1063 00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:18,710 years ago that that just I mean I will 1064 00:42:23,590 --> 00:42:20,810 never forget it it was so solid and so 1065 00:42:25,420 --> 00:42:23,600 real and so the more I've been aging in 1066 00:42:26,650 --> 00:42:25,430 my own process in prayer and dealing 1067 00:42:28,390 --> 00:42:26,660 more and more with these kinds of 1068 00:42:30,550 --> 00:42:28,400 connections to the other side I realized 1069 00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:30,560 it's going to be a lovely journey now 1070 00:42:34,810 --> 00:42:31,970 and then so the other thing that happens 1071 00:42:36,670 --> 00:42:34,820 as we age is we begin to I mean this 1072 00:42:38,410 --> 00:42:36,680 time runs out you can only live in the 1073 00:42:40,150 --> 00:42:38,420 present because the future is getting 1074 00:42:42,850 --> 00:42:40,160 shorter and shorter so you get more and 1075 00:42:44,740 --> 00:42:42,860 more amazed at the present moment the 1076 00:42:47,470 --> 00:42:44,750 way the sunlight plays on your 1077 00:42:49,660 --> 00:42:47,480 grandson's blonde hair for example or or 1078 00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:49,670 the smell of cookies baking and you and 1079 00:42:52,900 --> 00:42:51,290 though you may not have this experience 1080 00:42:54,940 --> 00:42:52,910 stimulating where times it just fills 1081 00:42:56,650 --> 00:42:54,950 your heart with the wonder of the world 1082 00:42:58,780 --> 00:42:56,660 and you feel such gratitude for 1083 00:43:01,390 --> 00:42:58,790 existence those are spiritual 1084 00:43:03,970 --> 00:43:01,400 experiences that happen in aging aging 1085 00:43:06,490 --> 00:43:03,980 does not have to be a grim descent into 1086 00:43:08,710 --> 00:43:06,500 suffering it's about a celebration of 1087 00:43:11,050 --> 00:43:08,720 your life and about the life force and 1088 00:43:13,240 --> 00:43:11,060 above it over about becoming what you've 1089 00:43:14,589 --> 00:43:13,250 always going to be in the first place so 1090 00:43:17,529 --> 00:43:14,599 I can go on forever but there's a lot 1091 00:43:21,219 --> 00:43:17,539 two ways aging opens opens the psyche to 1092 00:43:24,309 --> 00:43:21,229 the divine world so aging is being born 1093 00:43:26,079 --> 00:43:24,319 back to the divine yes it's a right of 1094 00:43:28,359 --> 00:43:26,089 types of passage yes 1095 00:43:30,489 --> 00:43:28,369 it's an initiation into a new state of 1096 00:43:33,309 --> 00:43:30,499 consciousness yeah I asked you that I 1097 00:43:34,809 --> 00:43:33,319 asked you this question two times in the 1098 00:43:36,460 --> 00:43:34,819 last two interviews I want to ask you 1099 00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:36,470 again because the answer is probably 1100 00:43:44,109 --> 00:43:38,450 gonna be similar but I know it's going 1101 00:43:48,069 --> 00:43:44,119 to be different the closer a person gets 1102 00:43:49,630 --> 00:43:48,079 to death we think about no any 1103 00:43:50,829 --> 00:43:49,640 particular age we might think about you 1104 00:43:51,549 --> 00:43:50,839 know we're going to die one day we're 1105 00:43:56,009 --> 00:43:51,559 going to die one day 1106 00:44:01,440 --> 00:43:56,019 and it seems to me that someone's now 75 1107 00:44:04,989 --> 00:44:01,450 78 80 83 that they would start to 1108 00:44:06,819 --> 00:44:04,999 habitually hyper focus on their women's 1109 00:44:10,569 --> 00:44:06,829 is today going to be today and the 1110 00:44:15,089 --> 00:44:10,579 question I posed to you last year in the 1111 00:44:19,089 --> 00:44:15,099 year before was do we have more grace 1112 00:44:22,209 --> 00:44:19,099 given to us to alleviate our fear of our 1113 00:44:26,229 --> 00:44:22,219 soon-to-be passing the closer we get to 1114 00:44:28,839 --> 00:44:26,239 death you know it's up to us really 1115 00:44:31,089 --> 00:44:28,849 because if you cling to who you used to 1116 00:44:33,249 --> 00:44:31,099 be and then worry about whether that 1117 00:44:35,170 --> 00:44:33,259 person's good enough you will fret about 1118 00:44:37,479 --> 00:44:35,180 dying and it'll be and it will be a 1119 00:44:39,099 --> 00:44:37,489 worrisome experience when you stop 1120 00:44:40,900 --> 00:44:39,109 thinking and move into this other state 1121 00:44:44,259 --> 00:44:40,910 of consciousness is such a profound 1122 00:44:46,269 --> 00:44:44,269 sense of peace and comfort that he's not 1123 00:44:49,269 --> 00:44:46,279 you just know it will be okay 1124 00:44:52,150 --> 00:44:49,279 whatever happens so it really is up to 1125 00:44:54,579 --> 00:44:52,160 us to interrupt our if you've read about 1126 00:44:56,319 --> 00:44:54,589 is this the moment is this the day or 1127 00:44:58,809 --> 00:44:56,329 you could just lie down and relax and 1128 00:45:00,999 --> 00:44:58,819 say if it's time it's time it is not 1129 00:45:01,900 --> 00:45:01,009 it's not I know it's going to be fine or 1130 00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:01,910 people who have had near-death 1131 00:45:05,859 --> 00:45:03,650 experiences are not afraid of dying 1132 00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:05,869 because they've been there right right 1133 00:45:11,410 --> 00:45:08,170 and there's nothing you can do about it 1134 00:45:14,170 --> 00:45:11,420 you might as well go everybody dies 1135 00:45:16,229 --> 00:45:14,180 you know it's part of the journey and 1136 00:45:19,569 --> 00:45:16,239 may I brought my Roenick Lee the most 1137 00:45:21,729 --> 00:45:19,579 amazing transition in life is the most 1138 00:45:25,059 --> 00:45:21,739 amazing thing in life is death because 1139 00:45:27,009 --> 00:45:25,069 you know we came from there and we're 1140 00:45:28,329 --> 00:45:27,019 going back home and this is just a 1141 00:45:32,030 --> 00:45:28,339 little vacation 1142 00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:32,040 yeah yeah we became an image in the 1143 00:45:36,589 --> 00:45:34,050 world and we lived it out and like a 1144 00:45:38,420 --> 00:45:36,599 wave we returned to the oneness though 1145 00:45:40,720 --> 00:45:38,430 it's quite clear that on the other side 1146 00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:40,730 we continue in a form that is 1147 00:45:45,410 --> 00:45:43,170 identifiable as us to the extent that we 1148 00:45:48,109 --> 00:45:45,420 haven't fully overcome our identity with 1149 00:45:52,220 --> 00:45:48,119 with the with a self idea so now we have 1150 00:45:54,079 --> 00:45:52,230 a causal self that you know I can talk 1151 00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:54,089 to my parents on the other side and it's 1152 00:45:57,079 --> 00:45:55,290 really fun to hear what they're up to 1153 00:45:58,700 --> 00:45:57,089 you know they're going on with things 1154 00:46:01,220 --> 00:45:58,710 they're finding new challenges and so 1155 00:46:03,410 --> 00:46:01,230 forth and my grandmother to this is oh 1156 00:46:05,300 --> 00:46:03,420 and but one day there will be I said 1157 00:46:07,130 --> 00:46:05,310 there will be a time to let go of that 1158 00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:07,140 and that's fine you let go when you're 1159 00:46:28,460 --> 00:46:24,930 ready like we lost at you there we go 1160 00:46:29,900 --> 00:46:28,470 I have so many buttons over here I want 1161 00:46:31,970 --> 00:46:29,910 to ask you just for the sake of its 1162 00:46:35,410 --> 00:46:31,980 playing with Oh fun with a fun question 1163 00:46:38,569 --> 00:46:35,420 that question is I wonder if we have 1164 00:46:39,890 --> 00:46:38,579 pauses conscious pauses when we get to 1165 00:46:43,700 --> 00:46:39,900 the other side or we just aware all the 1166 00:46:45,950 --> 00:46:43,710 time the other side is not far away it's 1167 00:46:48,740 --> 00:46:45,960 it overlaps with this side it's always 1168 00:46:50,210 --> 00:46:48,750 here you know so if when we stop you 1169 00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:50,220 know there's just moments when the dust 1170 00:46:53,450 --> 00:46:51,930 motes are coming in the kitchen window 1171 00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:53,460 and then the light is playing on them 1172 00:46:57,710 --> 00:46:56,010 and you're not thinking you're there you 1173 00:47:00,440 --> 00:46:57,720 know you're you're in you're in both 1174 00:47:03,170 --> 00:47:00,450 spaces and so yeah in between this 1175 00:47:05,050 --> 00:47:03,180 thought world and the sight and the in 1176 00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:05,060 fact on this world there it is 1177 00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:07,890 you cannot area so I totally agree that 1178 00:47:11,870 --> 00:47:09,810 John it's not that we left we didn't 1179 00:47:14,569 --> 00:47:11,880 lead anywhere because if we left we 1180 00:47:16,339 --> 00:47:14,579 couldn't be here what it is we have to 1181 00:47:17,420 --> 00:47:16,349 be infected we have to be connected to 1182 00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:17,430 the source of who we are 1183 00:47:22,220 --> 00:47:19,530 right there's only one thing yeah and 1184 00:47:24,500 --> 00:47:22,230 this is it I think he takes us into 1185 00:47:26,599 --> 00:47:24,510 another world of thought but it's not 1186 00:47:28,569 --> 00:47:26,609 different from the divine world it's 1187 00:47:31,099 --> 00:47:28,579 just we've created we say waited 1188 00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:31,109 segregated a cup a mental frame that we 1189 00:47:36,589 --> 00:47:33,810 live in like a playhouse and we 1190 00:47:41,810 --> 00:47:36,599 conceived it how does becoming a divine 1191 00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:41,820 human lead to sacred activism well 1192 00:47:46,030 --> 00:47:43,890 in a lot of different ways it what 1193 00:47:49,220 --> 00:47:46,040 happens is that you begin to see the 1194 00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:49,230 utterly unnecessary suffering around us 1195 00:47:54,140 --> 00:47:51,570 but people who believe their own stories 1196 00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:54,150 about their own life about what's wrong 1197 00:47:59,450 --> 00:47:55,770 with other people's lives and strove for 1198 00:48:01,280 --> 00:47:59,460 and then so you begin that you wanna and 1199 00:48:02,900 --> 00:48:01,290 and your heart is so open that you just 1200 00:48:06,170 --> 00:48:02,910 want to be present and you want to say 1201 00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:06,180 you know take a deep breath you know you 1202 00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:08,370 can you do this on a moment-to-moment 1203 00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:10,290 here-and-now way it's not about going 1204 00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:12,330 out there and saving the world it's 1205 00:48:17,390 --> 00:48:15,450 about loving the cashier you know and 1206 00:48:19,730 --> 00:48:17,400 making friends with with it and waving 1207 00:48:22,130 --> 00:48:19,740 at the neighbor as you as you walk by 1208 00:48:24,290 --> 00:48:22,140 and a babysitting for your kids as I'm 1209 00:48:26,030 --> 00:48:24,300 doing right now it's and then you just 1210 00:48:28,580 --> 00:48:26,040 open your heart in the world is a better 1211 00:48:30,380 --> 00:48:28,590 place that is that could be called 1212 00:48:32,720 --> 00:48:30,390 sacred ass activism because you're no 1213 00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:32,730 longer distracted by purposes you're in 1214 00:48:37,910 --> 00:48:34,770 the divine present loving it just as 1215 00:48:42,350 --> 00:48:37,920 just the way it is and so when one 1216 00:48:44,930 --> 00:48:42,360 changes their own world it begins to 1217 00:48:47,510 --> 00:48:44,940 influence the collective experience to 1218 00:48:49,220 --> 00:48:47,520 be to shift along with it that's how you 1219 00:48:51,620 --> 00:48:49,230 change the world is by changing your own 1220 00:48:53,870 --> 00:48:51,630 right yeah we are all swimming in this 1221 00:48:55,820 --> 00:48:53,880 one sea of consciousness and the more 1222 00:48:58,430 --> 00:48:55,830 each of us wake up we affect everything 1223 00:48:59,990 --> 00:48:58,440 our Awakening and the love that flows 1224 00:49:03,830 --> 00:49:00,000 through it literally is vibrating the 1225 00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:03,840 whole you know web of life and out of 1226 00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:06,690 the universe and so my Awakening is not 1227 00:49:11,510 --> 00:49:08,850 just like some kind of selfish thing as 1228 00:49:13,580 --> 00:49:11,520 much as part of my gift of life that 1229 00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:13,590 that touches everything in the entire 1230 00:49:20,110 --> 00:49:16,650 cosmos that's how important we each are 1231 00:49:22,850 --> 00:49:20,120 to wake up so we are in a time of 1232 00:49:24,740 --> 00:49:22,860 collective spiritual evolution would you 1233 00:49:26,540 --> 00:49:24,750 do that absolutely yeah 1234 00:49:28,340 --> 00:49:26,550 yeah it's happening yeah and people are 1235 00:49:31,030 --> 00:49:28,350 rising up people may think that the 1236 00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:31,040 uprising that's happening in the streets 1237 00:49:36,050 --> 00:49:33,690 is a bad thing whether it's a bad thing 1238 00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:36,060 or not the fact that people are uprising 1239 00:49:39,980 --> 00:49:37,410 they had enough that things are 1240 00:49:41,870 --> 00:49:39,990 beginning the pot is being stirred so 1241 00:49:44,690 --> 00:49:41,880 the divine ladle can scoop out the magic 1242 00:49:46,340 --> 00:49:44,700 on the right right yeah but you know 1243 00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:46,350 it's so clear that when one person is 1244 00:49:51,650 --> 00:49:50,130 hurt we all feel it you know and so or 1245 00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:51,660 if you know you got to cue 2 year old 1246 00:49:55,190 --> 00:49:53,610 wandering across the freeway you don't 1247 00:49:57,050 --> 00:49:55,200 worry about yourself you run out there 1248 00:49:59,359 --> 00:49:57,060 to say that two-year-old with an 1249 00:50:01,910 --> 00:49:59,369 instincts an instinctual response to 1250 00:50:04,190 --> 00:50:01,920 human is the beingness of life that we 1251 00:50:07,910 --> 00:50:04,200 will have if we get out of our heads and 1252 00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:07,920 into this much more sense of of loving 1253 00:50:10,940 --> 00:50:09,450 loving and being present through the 1254 00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:10,950 world and and that's changing we are 1255 00:50:14,270 --> 00:50:12,570 much more conscious now we have much 1256 00:50:16,579 --> 00:50:14,280 more understanding of consciousness than 1257 00:50:18,349 --> 00:50:16,589 we ever had in our whole evolutions 1258 00:50:20,060 --> 00:50:18,359 there's a spiritual process taking place 1259 00:50:22,970 --> 00:50:20,070 and I think aging is part of the new 1260 00:50:25,250 --> 00:50:22,980 aging is itself a stage of spiritual 1261 00:50:26,780 --> 00:50:25,260 evolution and so the elders as they're 1262 00:50:30,650 --> 00:50:26,790 waking up they're giving back to the 1263 00:50:33,349 --> 00:50:30,660 universe a cut this kind of vision of 1264 00:50:34,910 --> 00:50:33,359 what could be and they give it to their 1265 00:50:37,569 --> 00:50:34,920 grandchildren they give it to their kids 1266 00:50:40,579 --> 00:50:37,579 they just give it to the way they live 1267 00:50:41,690 --> 00:50:40,589 John I've always wanted to and in fact I 1268 00:50:43,730 --> 00:50:41,700 did this last year once your 1269 00:50:45,740 --> 00:50:43,740 convalescent home and spoke to the 1270 00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:45,750 people at the desk and asked them if I 1271 00:50:51,620 --> 00:50:48,210 could interview and let them pick their 1272 00:50:55,339 --> 00:50:51,630 obably 7 to 10 little blue-haired people 1273 00:50:57,109 --> 00:50:55,349 and and have them tell me the story of 1274 00:50:58,700 --> 00:50:57,119 their life of course I would have 1275 00:51:00,770 --> 00:50:58,710 certain questions I would ask them and 1276 00:51:04,670 --> 00:51:00,780 the same question be posed to all eight 1277 00:51:06,230 --> 00:51:04,680 or 10 of them and I still considering 1278 00:51:09,530 --> 00:51:06,240 doing that and I thought about it a lot 1279 00:51:11,270 --> 00:51:09,540 in the recent past but yeah the most one 1280 00:51:13,819 --> 00:51:11,280 of most important things we can do for 1281 00:51:16,190 --> 00:51:13,829 our older family members and others is 1282 00:51:18,020 --> 00:51:16,200 to ask them to tell their story because 1283 00:51:20,300 --> 00:51:18,030 they need to make sense out of it for 1284 00:51:22,849 --> 00:51:20,310 themselves so they can move on and and 1285 00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:22,859 they need to be validated their life was 1286 00:51:26,780 --> 00:51:25,410 worthwhile and it's utterly fascinating 1287 00:51:28,309 --> 00:51:26,790 to hear what people have lived through 1288 00:51:30,589 --> 00:51:28,319 and what they got where they went 1289 00:51:33,470 --> 00:51:30,599 it's so validating that it's spending 1290 00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:33,480 time with older people and listening is 1291 00:51:36,829 --> 00:51:34,770 one of the greatest gifts you can give 1292 00:51:39,319 --> 00:51:36,839 and it's in as cheap that's inexpensive 1293 00:51:42,230 --> 00:51:39,329 and it's beautiful and I think probably 1294 00:51:44,660 --> 00:51:42,240 in some way that because they are 1295 00:51:46,609 --> 00:51:44,670 nearing their time here on earth in the 1296 00:51:49,069 --> 00:51:46,619 physical way that it gives them closure 1297 00:51:51,260 --> 00:51:49,079 to tell that story one last time yeah 1298 00:51:52,819 --> 00:51:51,270 and then they sense that they are giving 1299 00:51:56,750 --> 00:51:52,829 you if they want to give you something 1300 00:51:58,460 --> 00:51:56,760 of their life so so whether it's both 1301 00:52:00,980 --> 00:51:58,470 sided it's a shake hands deal were they 1302 00:52:02,660 --> 00:52:00,990 giving you the gift and you get the joy 1303 00:52:04,910 --> 00:52:02,670 of hearing about their life but to them 1304 00:52:07,190 --> 00:52:04,920 it's like you know sealing the book 1305 00:52:07,950 --> 00:52:07,200 closing the book senior deal and that's 1306 00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:07,960 a task 1307 00:52:12,540 --> 00:52:10,210 have what is our legacy and our legacy 1308 00:52:14,430 --> 00:52:12,550 is how we've lived our life you know and 1309 00:52:18,180 --> 00:52:14,440 so writing letters to our kids and 1310 00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:18,190 grandchildren or speaking into a tape 1311 00:52:21,690 --> 00:52:19,570 recorder and telling the story of our 1312 00:52:24,420 --> 00:52:21,700 life or teaching our grandkids how to 1313 00:52:26,550 --> 00:52:24,430 fish this is our legacy and it's 1314 00:52:28,380 --> 00:52:26,560 priceless it's precious how many of us 1315 00:52:31,620 --> 00:52:28,390 wish that our parents that told us more 1316 00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:31,630 about their lives so you know do it I 1317 00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:34,330 would encourage everybody to do it the 1318 00:52:37,890 --> 00:52:36,010 conscious aging movement which is really 1319 00:52:40,530 --> 00:52:37,900 worth everybody getting involved with 1320 00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:40,540 will help you approach aging from an 1321 00:52:45,090 --> 00:52:42,370 entirely new perspective one without 1322 00:52:47,220 --> 00:52:45,100 fear one with so many people doing this 1323 00:52:51,240 --> 00:52:47,230 were coming alive as older people it's 1324 00:52:52,470 --> 00:52:51,250 grand I love it young we are slowly but 1325 00:52:55,530 --> 00:52:52,480 surely coming to the top of the hour 1326 00:52:57,300 --> 00:52:55,540 would you give me your listen to 1327 00:52:58,980 --> 00:52:57,310 listening on in to your address and how 1328 00:53:00,690 --> 00:52:58,990 they could find more about you and your 1329 00:53:06,180 --> 00:53:00,700 awesome works that you're involved with 1330 00:53:10,890 --> 00:53:06,190 sir yes please come see me I'm at wwg on 1331 00:53:14,100 --> 00:53:10,900 Robinson org so it's Jo HN our OB i n s 1332 00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:14,110 o an org and you or just look that up on 1333 00:53:18,300 --> 00:53:16,570 it on internet and my name and organ 1334 00:53:19,980 --> 00:53:18,310 you'll find me in and and leave me a 1335 00:53:21,510 --> 00:53:19,990 message I got emailed thing there and I 1336 00:53:27,180 --> 00:53:21,520 love to hear for people and I'll answer 1337 00:53:29,220 --> 00:53:27,190 it John give me a final thought we are 1338 00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:29,230 maybe about what's happening and if 1339 00:53:32,910 --> 00:53:30,970 anything that you think that we can take 1340 00:53:34,590 --> 00:53:32,920 with us after this interview and begin 1341 00:53:36,900 --> 00:53:34,600 to implement it in our life so we can 1342 00:53:39,720 --> 00:53:36,910 become that divine human at least a 1343 00:53:43,910 --> 00:53:39,730 little more of it you know it's always 1344 00:53:46,500 --> 00:53:43,920 and forever about love is always about 1345 00:53:47,700 --> 00:53:46,510 moving out of the mind which tells us 1346 00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:47,710 what everything is wrong and 1347 00:53:51,300 --> 00:53:48,970 everything's full of fear and moving 1348 00:53:54,510 --> 00:53:51,310 instead into everything is already 1349 00:53:56,460 --> 00:53:54,520 perfect it's divine and if you will open 1350 00:53:58,440 --> 00:53:56,470 your heart you'll discover that there's 1351 00:54:06,180 --> 00:53:58,450 very few things that truly need fixing 1352 00:54:11,340 --> 00:54:06,190 there's this everything needs loving let 1353 00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:11,350 me ask you what is love because most 1354 00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:15,130 people haven't they don't have a true 1355 00:54:20,370 --> 00:54:18,370 grasp on the meaning of what you're 1356 00:54:21,750 --> 00:54:20,380 speaking about love they think it has to 1357 00:54:24,060 --> 00:54:21,760 do with the relationship 1358 00:54:26,850 --> 00:54:24,070 what this about give me your definition 1359 00:54:28,580 --> 00:54:26,860 of love sir see that's the one that's a 1360 00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:28,590 wonderful wonderful question 1361 00:54:34,530 --> 00:54:32,530 love is a state of being you know it's 1362 00:54:37,230 --> 00:54:34,540 not it's not like falling in love so 1363 00:54:40,140 --> 00:54:37,240 much and it's not like it's like when 1364 00:54:42,330 --> 00:54:40,150 you are one with your own being the love 1365 00:54:45,060 --> 00:54:42,340 is just their love runs the universe the 1366 00:54:49,710 --> 00:54:45,070 consciousness and love are two names for 1367 00:54:53,790 --> 00:54:49,720 the same energy that is everything so as 1368 00:54:56,550 --> 00:54:53,800 we begin to as we learn how to merged 1369 00:54:58,950 --> 00:54:56,560 with that state of oneness but at what 1370 00:55:00,630 --> 00:54:58,960 we find there is the love and I'm sure 1371 00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:00,640 it's ineffable and I'm not sure you can 1372 00:55:04,770 --> 00:55:02,890 reduce it to anything else it just is 1373 00:55:06,990 --> 00:55:04,780 and that is what we are we're made of 1374 00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:07,000 love and you'll never be happier than 1375 00:55:12,510 --> 00:55:09,970 when you're loving that guy you know I 1376 00:55:14,970 --> 00:55:12,520 totally agree there's some aspects of 1377 00:55:19,650 --> 00:55:14,980 love to me one of the biggest aspects of 1378 00:55:21,150 --> 00:55:19,660 love is allowing allowing leaving 1379 00:55:24,390 --> 00:55:21,160 fitting that your love is I have no 1380 00:55:27,720 --> 00:55:24,400 agenda to manipulate it I accept allow 1381 00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:27,730 and appreciate it as it is that to me is 1382 00:55:33,900 --> 00:55:29,530 love well that's the attribute of 1383 00:55:36,900 --> 00:55:33,910 creator created doesn't fix he admires 1384 00:55:40,050 --> 00:55:36,910 his creation and so forth all these in E 1385 00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:40,060 allows us to be as we are you know 1386 00:55:46,350 --> 00:55:44,170 faulty or not yeah the love is in loving 1387 00:55:48,090 --> 00:55:46,360 there's absolutely no judgment ever you 1388 00:55:53,790 --> 00:55:48,100 see everything is infinitely beautiful 1389 00:55:55,020 --> 00:55:53,800 so I use this is enough you're not the 1390 00:55:58,590 --> 00:55:55,030 more you see in the state the more 1391 00:55:59,670 --> 00:55:58,600 people's faces begin to glow hey you are 1392 00:56:03,330 --> 00:55:59,680 so beautiful 1393 00:56:04,890 --> 00:56:03,340 I don't think is always being uh just a 1394 00:56:07,260 --> 00:56:04,900 great guest here instead of light video 1395 00:56:09,510 --> 00:56:07,270 I love it man I appreciate your presence 1396 00:56:11,310 --> 00:56:09,520 every time you come always a pleasure to 1397 00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:11,320 be with you keep is a great joy thank 1398 00:56:14,700 --> 00:56:12,970 you for what you do 1399 00:56:16,110 --> 00:56:14,710 thank you sir listen you can you got my 1400 00:56:18,180 --> 00:56:16,120 phone number now you can contact me just 1401 00:56:21,630 --> 00:56:18,190 to say hi and we'll have to wait at once 1402 00:56:23,550 --> 00:56:21,640 a year to have a dialogue we'll do them 1403 00:56:26,070 --> 00:56:23,560 on mid self let me know okay I'm looking 1404 00:56:29,730 --> 00:56:26,080 I like hang out yeah yeah that'd be 1405 00:56:31,860 --> 00:56:29,740 great fun peace to you sir thank you and 1406 00:56:33,870 --> 00:56:31,870 everyone mr. John Steve Robertson you 1407 00:56:34,830 --> 00:56:33,880 can find him at John Robertson org I 1408 00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:34,840 think that's correct 1409 00:56:42,500 --> 00:56:38,650 listen to this guy's next week can you 1410 00:56:48,750 --> 00:56:42,510 imagine a lifestyle without eating food 1411 00:56:50,670 --> 00:56:48,760 ever ever eating food again ever 1412 00:56:52,530 --> 00:56:50,680 it's called breatharianism my guess 1413 00:56:54,210 --> 00:56:52,540 Daryll bran is going to be here he's 1414 00:56:54,810 --> 00:56:54,220 been practicing breatharianism for nine 1415 00:56:57,300 --> 00:56:54,820 years 1416 00:56:58,800 --> 00:56:57,310 in fact if I'm not mistaken you don't 1417 00:57:00,450 --> 00:56:58,810 have to have water either penis are you 1418 00:57:02,730 --> 00:57:00,460 going to die well if you think about it 1419 00:57:04,560 --> 00:57:02,740 from this approach that the sunlight 1420 00:57:06,270 --> 00:57:04,570 grows the grafts at the cows eat and if 1421 00:57:09,180 --> 00:57:06,280 you're vegetarian you eat vegetables 1422 00:57:11,670 --> 00:57:09,190 that have it's in view with sunlight now 1423 00:57:13,590 --> 00:57:11,680 or either if you meet either same thing 1424 00:57:16,140 --> 00:57:13,600 why not get it directly from the source 1425 00:57:19,620 --> 00:57:16,150 you get the quote middleman or the 1426 00:57:20,910 --> 00:57:19,630 mineral component out of the way you get 1427 00:57:23,490 --> 00:57:20,920 it directly from the source it's called 1428 00:57:26,130 --> 00:57:23,500 Sun gazing as well but you don't do this 1429 00:57:29,070 --> 00:57:26,140 in ignorance you don't there is a 1430 00:57:31,020 --> 00:57:29,080 practice that is safe to do and through 1431 00:57:32,730 --> 00:57:31,030 this Sun gazing you are taking in light 1432 00:57:34,650 --> 00:57:32,740 people say we keep don't you burn up 1433 00:57:36,300 --> 00:57:34,660 your retinas well that's why you have to 1434 00:57:38,940 --> 00:57:36,310 go to people who know exactly how to use 1435 00:57:40,980 --> 00:57:38,950 this practice and be taught people who 1436 00:57:42,060 --> 00:57:40,990 are responsible like Daryl brain he's 1437 00:57:43,380 --> 00:57:42,070 going to use a check it out it's 1438 00:57:45,960 --> 00:57:43,390 lifestyle without food called 1439 00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:45,970 breatharianism I've extracted about it 1440 00:57:51,060 --> 00:57:48,970 this interview also september swansea 1441 00:57:53,550 --> 00:57:51,070 Viswa yogi denied realise man from India 1442 00:57:56,310 --> 00:57:53,560 this man right here is going to be in 1443 00:57:59,610 --> 00:57:56,320 centre of light radio he is the first 1444 00:58:01,320 --> 00:57:59,620 quote Texas in the context it's meant 1445 00:58:03,060 --> 00:58:01,330 even though John and I shows about we 1446 00:58:05,220 --> 00:58:03,070 had the divine human the first God 1447 00:58:07,530 --> 00:58:05,230 energy to ever walk on this earth this 1448 00:58:10,680 --> 00:58:07,540 is his ninth incarnation 1449 00:58:13,320 --> 00:58:10,690 also Memphis metaphysical fair is going 1450 00:58:16,110 --> 00:58:13,330 to happen on August 5th and 6th August 6 1451 00:58:18,540 --> 00:58:16,120 from 3:30 to 5:30 I will be doing an 1452 00:58:20,370 --> 00:58:18,550 interview an interview well I've been 1453 00:58:21,870 --> 00:58:20,380 working 13 days in a row sometimes twice 1454 00:58:23,540 --> 00:58:21,880 a day I need a break I'm going to be 1455 00:58:25,740 --> 00:58:23,550 doing a presentation there on radical 1456 00:58:27,270 --> 00:58:25,750 transformation I'm going to open you up 1457 00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:27,280 on the spot and then I'm going to 1458 00:58:30,510 --> 00:58:28,810 empower you with some tools that's going 1459 00:58:32,220 --> 00:58:30,520 to keep you open and then even the same 1460 00:58:33,720 --> 00:58:32,230 the English god oh my god Keith what did 1461 00:58:35,190 --> 00:58:33,730 you do to me I must say that's exactly 1462 00:58:37,620 --> 00:58:35,200 what I did to you and you're going to 1463 00:58:40,050 --> 00:58:37,630 expand like John was so finally talking 1464 00:58:41,460 --> 00:58:40,060 about the awareness factor that we 1465 00:58:43,500 --> 00:58:41,470 talked about a sinner of light radio 1466 00:58:46,890 --> 00:58:43,510 speaking of center of light radio every 1467 00:58:48,010 --> 00:58:46,900 Monday night 6 p.m. Eastern Time you can 1468 00:58:50,260 --> 00:58:48,020 finally sit in this chair 1469 00:58:53,020 --> 00:58:50,270 conducting all the affairs of the heart 1470 00:58:55,660 --> 00:58:53,030 it's about that place right there as a 1471 00:58:56,920 --> 00:58:55,670 Stargate pop that thing open watch what 1472 00:58:58,450 --> 00:58:56,930 happens do you like you do that my 1473 00:59:00,220 --> 00:58:58,460 meditation every night before you go to 1474 00:59:02,890 --> 00:59:00,230 bed that's you only window to meditate 1475 00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:02,900 meditate yourself asleep you'll find 1476 00:59:07,540 --> 00:59:04,970 yourself in that deafening profound 1477 00:59:09,630 --> 00:59:07,550 silence that we shave miles off of your 1478 00:59:11,950 --> 00:59:09,640 journey to become the divine image 1479 00:59:14,140 --> 00:59:11,960 that's a gate there is no other gig 1480 00:59:58,720 --> 00:59:14,150 peace love a liking I'll see you soon 1481 00:59:58,730 --> 01:00:03,870 [Music]